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Bouncing off an idea on how to make a Bard... More Bard
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<blockquote data-quote="xXElaDriNDrizZztXx" data-source="post: 5298464" data-attributes="member: 88076"><p>If hybrid wasn't a complete abortion of an idea then yeah it would work. Hybrid isn't even good at it's own usage. The Bard idea I have is what a bard was meant to be, Proficient in all but Master of none type a deal. </p><p></p><p>Hybrid just made you play 2 characters at once without even being close to as good as just playing the full class itself. Outside of Monk for a damage build it's worthless. Especially with the stat differences, AND the fact you have to take implement abilities for a Monk. You're already killing half of what you are trying to do.</p><p></p><p>Then you take Multi-classing.... Which is great except your encounters and even utility powers become once per encounter. Why would I want sneak attack damage from a bard once per encounter when I could just be a rogue and get it every round?</p><p></p><p>Plus having to take two feats at least just for a gimmick is asinine. Not to mention have to nerf yourself and your primary stats just to make it work.</p><p></p><p>Also, having to take at least TWO FEATS to make that idea possible is just asinine. Plus you have to change your stats just to get all of these bonuses ONCE per encounter.</p><p></p><p>This is just on the damage side of things. Even Paladin etc is pretty much useless. </p><p></p><p>This is obviously not the whole idea, as for each class feature there would be rulings for but they are all pretty basic. The 1 damage die nerf is actually along the lines I thought of. But if in the build I'm thinking of is based all around 3d6, 2d4, 1d4 which maxes at 30 extra damage. I can see that it's good. But that's also if you want to max additional damage. There are better builds in doing so.</p><p></p><p>That is just off the top of my head. This isn't something I have been working on since 4E came out. Just a little something I thought about recently. Really really, recently. I haven't put a lot of time into it but if you have any SUGGESTIONS on how to make it work I'd appreciate it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="xXElaDriNDrizZztXx, post: 5298464, member: 88076"] If hybrid wasn't a complete abortion of an idea then yeah it would work. Hybrid isn't even good at it's own usage. The Bard idea I have is what a bard was meant to be, Proficient in all but Master of none type a deal. Hybrid just made you play 2 characters at once without even being close to as good as just playing the full class itself. Outside of Monk for a damage build it's worthless. Especially with the stat differences, AND the fact you have to take implement abilities for a Monk. You're already killing half of what you are trying to do. Then you take Multi-classing.... Which is great except your encounters and even utility powers become once per encounter. Why would I want sneak attack damage from a bard once per encounter when I could just be a rogue and get it every round? Plus having to take two feats at least just for a gimmick is asinine. Not to mention have to nerf yourself and your primary stats just to make it work. Also, having to take at least TWO FEATS to make that idea possible is just asinine. Plus you have to change your stats just to get all of these bonuses ONCE per encounter. This is just on the damage side of things. Even Paladin etc is pretty much useless. This is obviously not the whole idea, as for each class feature there would be rulings for but they are all pretty basic. The 1 damage die nerf is actually along the lines I thought of. But if in the build I'm thinking of is based all around 3d6, 2d4, 1d4 which maxes at 30 extra damage. I can see that it's good. But that's also if you want to max additional damage. There are better builds in doing so. That is just off the top of my head. This isn't something I have been working on since 4E came out. Just a little something I thought about recently. Really really, recently. I haven't put a lot of time into it but if you have any SUGGESTIONS on how to make it work I'd appreciate it. [/QUOTE]
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