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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IronWolf" data-source="post: 5935230" data-attributes="member: 21076">They say it *might* still be a challenge. So if you have a party who did nothing along the way to improve their strength then yes, breaking the door down might still be a challenge. Why should a non-strong character in a party be able to break the door down? Just because they are 20th level? Isn't that sort of like saying "I have a 10 strength, but because I am 20th level I choose to break the door down."Further, do we know that doors and objects aren't going to have hit points and hardness values? Break usually only means if you are trying to break the door down with force - not with damage. So if the fighter (who lets face it, is going to have the strength to break it down anyways at 20th level) wants to hit it with his axe I suspect that is a viable option. Or if the wizards wants to fireball the door down.  Or have they said objects won't have hit points in 5e?In either case - I hardly see this as an issue to get all fired up over. Ultimately, as the playtest has said so far, the DM is in the position to adjust things as needed. If you want your party at 20th level to be able to bust down doors - done! Don't require a check. The DM Guidelines doc states up front that the rules are not in charge. Make the decision that makes the game fun for your game. A line in the sand has not been drawn on this issue.</blockquote>