Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
NOW LIVE! Today's the day you meet your new best friend. You don’t have to leave Wolfy behind... In 'Pets & Sidekicks' your companions level up with you!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Bounded Accuracy L&L
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 5936576" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>Good question.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure about the idiot. But it seems that skills give a +3 bonus - so a character with a 12 INT plus Forbidden Law +3 will be as good as the INT 18 sage, and better than the INT 16 sage.</p><p></p><p>I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "solving problems with roleplaying", but one approach to this, as far as lore is concerned, is to bring backgrounds into play more fully.</p><p></p><p>Page 1 of the DM's Guidelines for the playtest talks about deeming certain tasks impossible. It seems open to the GM to say that a certain piece of Forbidden Lore - say, the secret name of the leader of a particular dark cult - cannot be known except by someone who has read the cult's writings. And then, unless you have a background that let's you stipulate that your PC has read those writings (eg because it gives you training in Forbidden Lore) your PC will actually have to discover the writings in the course of play in order to be given a chance to make a check and work through them to extract the secret name.</p><p></p><p>The general idea is to use backgrounds and training to do more than just provide bonuses - they open up options that other characters can only open up by actually undergoing a certain experience in the course of play.</p><p></p><p>Ideally, this would sit within a broader discussion of when to say yes, when to say no, when to say "roll the dice", and how much narrative freedom the players have in respect of all of this. The 4e DMGs have a bit to say about this, but I don't think it's all that strong. At least as far as lore skills are concerned, I think the advice on GMing "Wises" (= Lore) skills in the Burning Wheel Adventure Burner is pretty good, and could usefully be cribbed by the WotC designers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 5936576, member: 42582"] Good question. I'm not sure about the idiot. But it seems that skills give a +3 bonus - so a character with a 12 INT plus Forbidden Law +3 will be as good as the INT 18 sage, and better than the INT 16 sage. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "solving problems with roleplaying", but one approach to this, as far as lore is concerned, is to bring backgrounds into play more fully. Page 1 of the DM's Guidelines for the playtest talks about deeming certain tasks impossible. It seems open to the GM to say that a certain piece of Forbidden Lore - say, the secret name of the leader of a particular dark cult - cannot be known except by someone who has read the cult's writings. And then, unless you have a background that let's you stipulate that your PC has read those writings (eg because it gives you training in Forbidden Lore) your PC will actually have to discover the writings in the course of play in order to be given a chance to make a check and work through them to extract the secret name. The general idea is to use backgrounds and training to do more than just provide bonuses - they open up options that other characters can only open up by actually undergoing a certain experience in the course of play. Ideally, this would sit within a broader discussion of when to say yes, when to say no, when to say "roll the dice", and how much narrative freedom the players have in respect of all of this. The 4e DMGs have a bit to say about this, but I don't think it's all that strong. At least as far as lore skills are concerned, I think the advice on GMing "Wises" (= Lore) skills in the Burning Wheel Adventure Burner is pretty good, and could usefully be cribbed by the WotC designers. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Bounded Accuracy L&L
Top