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<blockquote data-quote="Zappo" data-source="post: 870636" data-attributes="member: 633">Good thread. I hope it stays so. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />For books, I don't really have limits. Anything that is used properly is good, but even if it's not, I'll probably chuckle at the author's lack of talent and eventually stop reading, but it won't &quot;offend&quot; me.For games, though, since it's a social activity, there are a few fine lines.For most of the areas you've mentioned, the same rule applies as for books. I can't be offended. However, I find that overuse, or inappropriate use, of full nudity, descriptions of sex, extreme sex, and graphic violence, simply becomes either boring or ridiculous.It doesn't really matter how disgusting it is; if the players and DM are good enough to use it maturely, it's fine, otherwise, it lowers the campaign's tone. Naturally, the more extreme the act, the tighter that rope; anything that's performed by PCs or on PCs makes it even tighter. Fall from the rope, I'd get the feel that I'm wasting my time.The fine lines happen around torture by PCs and child abuse. Both have the same &quot;use when appropriate&quot; caveat, and additionally:- No descriptions of torture/rape when PCs are involved.- No child abuse involving PCs, not even off stage, and no description ever, not even for NPCs.- Unlike what mentioned in the first part of the post, I find inappropriate use of torture/rape by PCs and child abuse not childish, but outright insulting, and additionally this rope is so tight that I wouldn't trust anyone (not even sure about myself) to walk it. Might be done, just not by anyone I know. So for actual games, child abuse doesn't happen and torture is just something evil NPCs occasionally do to other NPCs in far away places.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zappo, post: 870636, member: 633"] Good thread. I hope it stays so. :) For books, I don't really have limits. Anything that is used properly is good, but even if it's not, I'll probably chuckle at the author's lack of talent and eventually stop reading, but it won't "offend" me. For games, though, since it's a social activity, there are a few fine lines. For most of the areas you've mentioned, the same rule applies as for books. I can't be offended. However, I find that overuse, or inappropriate use, of full nudity, descriptions of sex, extreme sex, and graphic violence, simply becomes either boring or ridiculous. It doesn't really matter how disgusting it is; if the players and DM are good enough to use it maturely, it's fine, otherwise, it lowers the campaign's tone. Naturally, the more extreme the act, the tighter that rope; anything that's performed by PCs or on PCs makes it even tighter. Fall from the rope, I'd get the feel that I'm wasting my time. The fine lines happen around torture by PCs and child abuse. Both have the same "use when appropriate" caveat, and additionally: - No descriptions of torture/rape when PCs are involved. - No child abuse involving PCs, not even off stage, and no description ever, not even for NPCs. - Unlike what mentioned in the first part of the post, I find inappropriate use of torture/rape by PCs and child abuse not childish, but outright insulting, and additionally [i]this[/i] rope is so tight that I wouldn't trust anyone (not even sure about myself) to walk it. Might be done, just not by anyone I know. So for actual games, child abuse doesn't happen and torture is just something evil NPCs occasionally do to other NPCs in far away places. [/QUOTE]

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