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[BoVD, BoEF, Vile] Where do you say "unacceptable?"
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<blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 871157" data-attributes="member: 5100"><p>Lessee....</p><p></p><p>FWIW, my line for fiction and gaming is pretty much the same.  I'll just break my answers into story and pictures, as appropriate.</p><p></p><p>NUDITY:  Not really an issue to me, so long as it's non-descriptive.  Basically, if the DM says "She's completely naked," or even "She's completely naked and quite well endowed," I don't have a problem.  If he starts getting more descriptive, I have a problem.</p><p></p><p>As for pictures in books, for the most part, I'm against it.  Every now and then, you find a nekkid picture that really isn't sexual at all.  Those I don't mind, but they are rare.</p><p></p><p>SEX:  Basically off camera.  I don't want a graphic description of _anything_, including kissing.  For certain character types, saying "He sits there with his hand under the wench's shirt," is appropriate from time to time, but I would not want to see it said very often (once or twice ever is probably enough).  Nothing more graphic than that.</p><p></p><p>NECROPHILIA:  Whatever.  No more description than sex.  I would generally disapprove of a PC doing this, too.  Even necrophiliac NPCs should be used sparingly.</p><p></p><p>Picures:  No thinks.</p><p></p><p>BEASTIALITY:  I once played a 2E Viking Handbook Berserker who could shift into bear form.  The party Ranger had a she-bear follower.  I would sometimes sneak into her den and shift forms.  We have a son who is a natural werebear.</p><p></p><p>What I just wrote is almost exactly as much as was ever discussed on the matter.  I don't ever expect to see beastiality in a game I play again.  If I do, I would not want to see anything more explicit.</p><p></p><p>Pictures:  Double no thanks.  Someone showed me a picture in college that I'm _still_ trying to burn out after twelve years.</p><p></p><p>INTER-SPECIES SEX:  I guess this either falls into "sex" or "beastiality" (or "necrophilia", I suppose) to me.  I'd handle it appropriately.</p><p></p><p>VIOLENCE/MUTILATION:  Nothing particularly graphic, usually.  I like the realism that someone might actually have a use for a stump knife or an eye patch, but only in small doses and never vivid.</p><p></p><p>Pictures:  Actually, I have a phobia of dismemberment.  I can divorce my mind from the words, but a picture will pretty much drop me to my knees.</p><p></p><p>TORTURE:  Rather not.  I've been there, done that.  A simple statement of "You/he get tortured," is plenty.  Don't need pictures, either -- see Violence.</p><p></p><p>CHILD MOLESTATION:  Nope.  No way, no how.  Sometimes kids get killed, but usually even the bad guys refrain.</p><p></p><p>RAPE:  It happens off camera.  By NPCs, to NPCs.  I used it in on a PC in a dream sequence once.  I knew the player trusted me enough to do it.  Even then, it was very much not described.  I can't imagine ever actually using it on a PC, or having a PC do it.</p><p></p><p>PREGNANCY:  Everyone comes from somewhere, right?  Seriously, it tends to get in the way of dungeon-crawling, so it's a bad option for PCs.  As DM, I did have a PC have a baby once, though.  It happened during "down-time" (college break) while everyone's characters aged a couple of years.  The campaign that followed involved the baby having something special about it and getting kidnapped.  I discussed this (in general terms) with the player, first.</p><p></p><p>HOMOSEXUALITY:  My gaming group has usually (and currently) been entirely heterosexuals.  As such, homosexuality rarely enters into our train of thought.</p><p></p><p>RELIGION:  Myths, especially manufactured for the setting, are great.  Real world religions are right out:  I don't want to insult anyone's religion, which I probably would be sticking it in a game.  As a very strong Christian, I find it somewhat blasphemous to RP the "true motives of God".</p><p></p><p>I've even insulated my homebrew world from the ultimate answers.  The deities that are worships did not create the fabric of reality, although they did build the world.  They are simply the most powerful beings that directly interact with anyone.  Even they don't know what is beyond themselves and there will never be any more answers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercule, post: 871157, member: 5100"] Lessee.... FWIW, my line for fiction and gaming is pretty much the same. I'll just break my answers into story and pictures, as appropriate. NUDITY: Not really an issue to me, so long as it's non-descriptive. Basically, if the DM says "She's completely naked," or even "She's completely naked and quite well endowed," I don't have a problem. If he starts getting more descriptive, I have a problem. As for pictures in books, for the most part, I'm against it. Every now and then, you find a nekkid picture that really isn't sexual at all. Those I don't mind, but they are rare. SEX: Basically off camera. I don't want a graphic description of _anything_, including kissing. For certain character types, saying "He sits there with his hand under the wench's shirt," is appropriate from time to time, but I would not want to see it said very often (once or twice ever is probably enough). Nothing more graphic than that. NECROPHILIA: Whatever. No more description than sex. I would generally disapprove of a PC doing this, too. Even necrophiliac NPCs should be used sparingly. Picures: No thinks. BEASTIALITY: I once played a 2E Viking Handbook Berserker who could shift into bear form. The party Ranger had a she-bear follower. I would sometimes sneak into her den and shift forms. We have a son who is a natural werebear. What I just wrote is almost exactly as much as was ever discussed on the matter. I don't ever expect to see beastiality in a game I play again. If I do, I would not want to see anything more explicit. Pictures: Double no thanks. Someone showed me a picture in college that I'm _still_ trying to burn out after twelve years. INTER-SPECIES SEX: I guess this either falls into "sex" or "beastiality" (or "necrophilia", I suppose) to me. I'd handle it appropriately. VIOLENCE/MUTILATION: Nothing particularly graphic, usually. I like the realism that someone might actually have a use for a stump knife or an eye patch, but only in small doses and never vivid. Pictures: Actually, I have a phobia of dismemberment. I can divorce my mind from the words, but a picture will pretty much drop me to my knees. TORTURE: Rather not. I've been there, done that. A simple statement of "You/he get tortured," is plenty. Don't need pictures, either -- see Violence. CHILD MOLESTATION: Nope. No way, no how. Sometimes kids get killed, but usually even the bad guys refrain. RAPE: It happens off camera. By NPCs, to NPCs. I used it in on a PC in a dream sequence once. I knew the player trusted me enough to do it. Even then, it was very much not described. I can't imagine ever actually using it on a PC, or having a PC do it. PREGNANCY: Everyone comes from somewhere, right? Seriously, it tends to get in the way of dungeon-crawling, so it's a bad option for PCs. As DM, I did have a PC have a baby once, though. It happened during "down-time" (college break) while everyone's characters aged a couple of years. The campaign that followed involved the baby having something special about it and getting kidnapped. I discussed this (in general terms) with the player, first. HOMOSEXUALITY: My gaming group has usually (and currently) been entirely heterosexuals. As such, homosexuality rarely enters into our train of thought. RELIGION: Myths, especially manufactured for the setting, are great. Real world religions are right out: I don't want to insult anyone's religion, which I probably would be sticking it in a game. As a very strong Christian, I find it somewhat blasphemous to RP the "true motives of God". I've even insulated my homebrew world from the ultimate answers. The deities that are worships did not create the fabric of reality, although they did build the world. They are simply the most powerful beings that directly interact with anyone. Even they don't know what is beyond themselves and there will never be any more answers. [/QUOTE]
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