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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 486934" data-attributes="member: 3146">Re: Re: Hmm curious IDHTBIFOMLiving Arcanis 32 point buy: Val Tensen Bbn 2/Ftr 1/Clr 2Str 16, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 12, Cha 10.Weapon Focus, Masterwork weaponVal Bloodline Abilities: Strength, and Reluctant WarriorRaging, Str 20, Raging and strength increased: str 22.BAB +4, Str +6, Weapon Focus +1, masterwork weapon +1, morale (bard or Bless) +1=+13 to hit at 5th level. Only needs to roll a 12 to hit the thing.(Val Bloodline powers aren't standard D&amp;D, but give him his 4th level stat increase and a Bull's Strength instead (not unreasonable at 5th level) and he's probably str 24 for +14 to hit.)Advance him one level and he hits on a 10. Give him a +2 weapon and it's a 9. Let the priest cast prayer and he's hitting AC 25 on an 8.I'll admit this character is fairly optimized for bashing heads but I don't think he's an unreasonable example of what can be expected at his level.Put me more in the &quot;Amazed that 7th level fighters can't hit AC 25 and that 7th level paladins can fail fortitude saves&quot; category than the &quot;AC 25 is difficult to hit&quot; category.Really, the Protective slime is the nastiest ability this thing has. (It looks like a rather annoying mechanic too--I'd much prefer it if it used the hardness/hp mechanic for damaging weapons than a reflex save).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 486934, member: 3146"] [b]Re: Re: Hmm curious IDHTBIFOM[/b] Living Arcanis 32 point buy: Val Tensen Bbn 2/Ftr 1/Clr 2 Str 16, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 12, Wis 12, Cha 10. Weapon Focus, Masterwork weapon Val Bloodline Abilities: Strength, and Reluctant Warrior Raging, Str 20, Raging and strength increased: str 22. BAB +4, Str +6, Weapon Focus +1, masterwork weapon +1, morale (bard or Bless) +1=+13 to hit at 5th level. Only needs to roll a 12 to hit the thing. (Val Bloodline powers aren't standard D&D, but give him his 4th level stat increase and a Bull's Strength instead (not unreasonable at 5th level) and he's probably str 24 for +14 to hit.) Advance him one level and he hits on a 10. Give him a +2 weapon and it's a 9. Let the priest cast prayer and he's hitting AC 25 on an 8. I'll admit this character is fairly optimized for bashing heads but I don't think he's an unreasonable example of what can be expected at his level. Put me more in the "Amazed that 7th level fighters can't hit AC 25 and that 7th level paladins can fail fortitude saves" category than the "AC 25 is difficult to hit" category. Really, the Protective slime is the nastiest ability this thing has. (It looks like a rather annoying mechanic too--I'd much prefer it if it used the hardness/hp mechanic for damaging weapons than a reflex save). [/QUOTE]

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