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<blockquote data-quote="Grazzt" data-source="post: 369333" data-attributes="member: 7"><p>I agree with Eric here. The stuff in there, with the exception of perhaps one spell (Corpsebond) really didn't warrant a sealed section or even a "Mature Content" notice. Most of the "vileness" wasn't really that vile. It was more "shock" and "gross" and seemed to be handled rather immaturely (IMO). </p><p></p><p>Think Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th. While classics in a sense, they are more graphic and perhaps gross than vile or evil. For vileness or evilness think Hellraiser or perhaps the Exorcist.</p><p></p><p>And the prestige classes in the sealed section...why? Were they really that bad? Did they even belong in the sealed section? What in them makes them so "vile" that they have to be sealed from public view? Didnt we already have monstrous prestige classes a few months ago? Were they sealed?</p><p></p><p>It seems that it was nothing more than a marketing ploy (and apparently a good one) by WotC. I suspect that the BoVD isn't gonna be as "vile" as a lot of people want or expect. </p><p></p><p>Will I buy it? Sure. For the Demon and Devil stats. Will I use the stuff in there in my campaign? Doubt it. My campaign is dark and contains fine traces of vileness and evilness (but in a much more mature way than Monte Cook or WotC portrayed in the articles).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree with Eric here too. The BoVD being non-Core won't receive that much, if any support in future products. It seems, from all initial indications, to be a one shot product, perhaps even an experiment. And while it probably won't help the D&D image, I don't think it will really hurt it that much. Those in the world that see D&D as evil will still see it as evil. Does it add fuel to the "D&D is evil" fire? Maybe. But the peeps that want "fuel" already have it from the PHB (spells, magic) and MM (demons, devils, etc.).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grazzt, post: 369333, member: 7"] I agree with Eric here. The stuff in there, with the exception of perhaps one spell (Corpsebond) really didn't warrant a sealed section or even a "Mature Content" notice. Most of the "vileness" wasn't really that vile. It was more "shock" and "gross" and seemed to be handled rather immaturely (IMO). Think Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th. While classics in a sense, they are more graphic and perhaps gross than vile or evil. For vileness or evilness think Hellraiser or perhaps the Exorcist. And the prestige classes in the sealed section...why? Were they really that bad? Did they even belong in the sealed section? What in them makes them so "vile" that they have to be sealed from public view? Didnt we already have monstrous prestige classes a few months ago? Were they sealed? It seems that it was nothing more than a marketing ploy (and apparently a good one) by WotC. I suspect that the BoVD isn't gonna be as "vile" as a lot of people want or expect. Will I buy it? Sure. For the Demon and Devil stats. Will I use the stuff in there in my campaign? Doubt it. My campaign is dark and contains fine traces of vileness and evilness (but in a much more mature way than Monte Cook or WotC portrayed in the articles). I agree with Eric here too. The BoVD being non-Core won't receive that much, if any support in future products. It seems, from all initial indications, to be a one shot product, perhaps even an experiment. And while it probably won't help the D&D image, I don't think it will really hurt it that much. Those in the world that see D&D as evil will still see it as evil. Does it add fuel to the "D&D is evil" fire? Maybe. But the peeps that want "fuel" already have it from the PHB (spells, magic) and MM (demons, devils, etc.). [/QUOTE]
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