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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 471143" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>Wait, wait, wait... do you mean that before your AoO you can perform free actions? I don't think so. I think you should be on your turn to make a free action, plus if you don't already have a melee weapon in hand you won't even get the AoO at all.</p><p></p><p>As for striking a weapon, I believe the opposed attack roll is to represent crushing of the weapons against each other, but maybe it may instead mean you're weaving the weapon to avoid it being struck... anyway it's a melee attack roll, you definitely don't make attack rolls with a bow/crossbow (well, maybe you can try <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ); what would a ranged attack roll opposed to a sundering melee attack roll mean???</p><p>I always though you use sunder rules (opposed rolls) only when attacking a melee weapon, and instead you simply strike a held object when you want to break an attended ranged weapon as any other non-weapon object --> exactly what Hyp said <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>OTOH I may consider allowing the second way (for held object) to protect your melee weapon from being sundered if you have a better bonus, for example because the weapon is smaller or your Dex bonus very high. This way may represent you're simply moving the weapon away from the attack, while if you are better in making the opposed attack roll, you're resisting the crushing "sword against sword".</p><p>After all, while it may be difficult with a longsword to sunder a greatsword and easier to sunder a shortsword, I wonder why should it be even easier to sunder (I mean hit, in this case) a Tiny character's Fine dagger.</p><p></p><p>--> remember that in sunder opposed rolls the bigger the weapon, the better (!! or... is it only when disarming??); instead when striking an attended object, the smaller, the better (I mean the attacked object)!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 471143, member: 1465"] Wait, wait, wait... do you mean that before your AoO you can perform free actions? I don't think so. I think you should be on your turn to make a free action, plus if you don't already have a melee weapon in hand you won't even get the AoO at all. As for striking a weapon, I believe the opposed attack roll is to represent crushing of the weapons against each other, but maybe it may instead mean you're weaving the weapon to avoid it being struck... anyway it's a melee attack roll, you definitely don't make attack rolls with a bow/crossbow (well, maybe you can try :) ); what would a ranged attack roll opposed to a sundering melee attack roll mean??? I always though you use sunder rules (opposed rolls) only when attacking a melee weapon, and instead you simply strike a held object when you want to break an attended ranged weapon as any other non-weapon object --> exactly what Hyp said :) OTOH I may consider allowing the second way (for held object) to protect your melee weapon from being sundered if you have a better bonus, for example because the weapon is smaller or your Dex bonus very high. This way may represent you're simply moving the weapon away from the attack, while if you are better in making the opposed attack roll, you're resisting the crushing "sword against sword". After all, while it may be difficult with a longsword to sunder a greatsword and easier to sunder a shortsword, I wonder why should it be even easier to sunder (I mean hit, in this case) a Tiny character's Fine dagger. --> remember that in sunder opposed rolls the bigger the weapon, the better (!! or... is it only when disarming??); instead when striking an attended object, the smaller, the better (I mean the attacked object)! [/QUOTE]
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