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<blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 166828" data-attributes="member: 2829">Re: Re: Re: Re: What about IceVery true. But maybe you end up with +2d6 steam damage. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />That's what myself and the other DM thought. But if that's true, then how can I, as a DM, justify the cost of flaming burst to my players? Here's what it looks like:1) Flaming/Shock weapon deals +2d6 extra damage, possible maximum of +12 damage.2) Flaming burst weapon deals +1d6 damage on normal hit, maximum of 6, and +1d6 +1d10 damage on a crit, maximum +16 (for a standard x2 crit weapon).Granted, the flaming weapon has a higher maximum damage but the chances that you will actually crit are much smaller and not really worth the cost of the +2 enhancement when you could just as easily slap on shock/flaming for the same price, knowing you will receive a guaranteed +2d6 damage for every single hit, and call it a day.Now, if what I argue is true, why bother having burst weapons in the first place (especially if you only allow burst weapons to come into effect on a critical hit according to the weapon's unmodified threat range)? This is what myself and the other DM have been discussing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kreynolds, post: 166828, member: 2829"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: What about Ice[/b] Very true. But maybe you end up with +2d6 [B]steam[/B] damage. :D That's what myself and the other DM thought. But if that's true, then how can I, as a DM, justify the cost of flaming burst to my players? Here's what it looks like: 1) Flaming/Shock weapon deals +2d6 extra damage, possible maximum of +12 damage. 2) Flaming burst weapon deals +1d6 damage on normal hit, maximum of 6, and +1d6 +1d10 damage on a crit, maximum +16 (for a standard x2 crit weapon). Granted, the flaming weapon has a higher maximum damage but the chances that you will actually crit are much smaller and not really worth the cost of the +2 enhancement when you could just as easily slap on shock/flaming for the same price, knowing you will receive a guaranteed +2d6 damage for every single hit, and call it a day. Now, if what I argue is true, why bother having burst weapons in the first place (especially if you only allow burst weapons to come into effect on a critical hit according to the weapon's unmodified threat range)? This is what myself and the other DM have been discussing. [/QUOTE]

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