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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herobizkit" data-source="post: 6838302" data-attributes="member: 36150">Pardon for stepping into the line of fire, but a couple of thoughts hit me as I read the exchange between [MENTION=22779]Hussar[/MENTION] and [MENTION=72670]Raunalyn[/MENTION] ...In Hussar's case, yeah, I can see how every attempt to be cool, sneaky ninjas resulting in "and now you fight everything" is a source of frustration.  I get that he and his group ('the group' from now on) are in a hostile city and would generally take reasonable precautions to avoid notice.  By contrast, though, if you're trying to be a sneaky ninja and you get caught and you're not wearing your ninja pyjamas (or a disguise or have some kind of exit strategy in place)... well, you reap what you sow.  In Raunayn's case, the players do not live in the DM's head.  They will never, ever, see things from your all-knowing all-seeing DM viewpoint of the scenario.  A person can 'coulda shoulda' all they want once the scenario is over, but in the actual moment of ingress during play, I can see where Hussar feels that "I must cover every possible situation the DM can create or we will fail".  And they did fail, on their very first stealth roll.  As for the 'coulda shoulda'... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Is it possible that the enemy readiness could have been better telegraphed? And for Hussar, was there no chance of retreat?  We all hate to do it, but sometimes, it's the better part of valor, especially if you're a sneaky ninja. Again, if I am off-base, feel free to disregard. ^_^</blockquote>

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