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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6839931" data-attributes="member: 22779">Hey now, let's not forget that you had BOTH patrols within 20 feet of us when we came over the wall.&nbsp; And we know that they were within 20 feet because they were within range of the silence spell.&nbsp; And, I guess I never thought to say, &quot;Hey, we're in a enemy city, we're taking basic precautions when moving around&quot;.&nbsp; Heck, I assumed we never left the house, except for the one time when they went scouting, which led immediately to a forced encounter with guards - no chance of evasion.&nbsp; I didn't know that we had to spell out every single action we took and make sure that we, as someone else put it, Metal Gear Solid play.&nbsp; It really does sound like a mismatch in expectations.&nbsp; I expected that a reasonable plan would have a reasonable chance of success.&nbsp; You both are expecting us to be Batman and have every t crossed and every i dotted before any plan isn't going to pretty much auto-fail.&nbsp; Well, I suppose that 's good to know now.&nbsp; Now I know that if we want to do anything other than kick in the front door and kill everything that moves, we have to stop, go down the checklist of every possible angle to make sure that we're not missing anything, and then proceed.&nbsp; Personally, I think I'm going to join the murder-hobos and just kick in the door.&nbsp; A lot less work for a lot more fun.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6839931, member: 22779"] Hey now, let's not forget that you had BOTH patrols within 20 feet of us when we came over the wall. And we know that they were within 20 feet because they were within range of the silence spell. And, I guess I never thought to say, "Hey, we're in a enemy city, we're taking basic precautions when moving around". Heck, I assumed we never left the house, except for the one time when they went scouting, which led immediately to a forced encounter with guards - no chance of evasion. I didn't know that we had to spell out every single action we took and make sure that we, as someone else put it, Metal Gear Solid play. It really does sound like a mismatch in expectations. I expected that a reasonable plan would have a reasonable chance of success. You both are expecting us to be Batman and have every t crossed and every i dotted before any plan isn't going to pretty much auto-fail. Well, I suppose that 's good to know now. Now I know that if we want to do anything other than kick in the front door and kill everything that moves, we have to stop, go down the checklist of every possible angle to make sure that we're not missing anything, and then proceed. Personally, I think I'm going to join the murder-hobos and just kick in the door. A lot less work for a lot more fun. [/QUOTE]

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