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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 6840206" data-attributes="member: 284">Well, the odds are stacked against you in any normal infiltration scenario in D&D (i.e. one that relies on stealth or guile).   It's the nature of the beast - a group of heavily armed adventurers with eclectic skill sets are attempting to infiltrate a location that is ostensibly designed to be difficult to infiltrate.   Usually only one or two characters in a party are going to be designed for stealth, only one or two will be good at social skills needed to talk your way past guards and out of situations,etc.  Then you are headed into a situation where everyone in the party is going to have to make multiple skill checks to succeed.  Most parties don't like plans that require most of the characters to stay behind while the skilled character(s) do their thing, because it means their players are sitting around not participating.  Don't split the party, etc.  The more skill checks you make, the more likely you are to fail a critical one (especially in 5e with it's bounded accuracy, but still holds true in previous editions).   Plus, the enemy only has to succeed on a single opposed check (in most cases) for someone to be spotted (or their disguise seen through, or their cover story not believed) and then call down the guards.   5E has group checks, where as long as half the PC's succeed on a stealth check or similar skill check it is assumed the group as a whole succeeds.  But even if your GM is using those,  multiple group skill checks still stack the odds against the PC's. Unless the whole group is composed of stealth-proficient characters or high-charisma social characters,  scenarios that require all PC's to succeed on multiple stealth or social checks are going to fail far more often than they succeed.  Some players prefer relying on scenarios that involve skills all the PC's share.  And the one thing that all PC's are assumed to be skilled at is combat.  Hence - murder hobo's.   "We wander the land doing odd jobs to survive (hobo).  Most of those jobs involve killing people and taking their stuff (murder)."</blockquote>

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