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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3010083" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>PHB2 is the epitome of the "bigger, badder, better" syndrome.</p><p></p><p>At least many of the benefits of BoED require the PC to be played not only good, but extremely good, and those benefits can be taken away if the PC does evil actions.</p><p></p><p>With PHB2, it just flat out breaks the gaming concepts.</p><p></p><p>As examples:</p><p></p><p>1) Melee Weapon Mastery as a single feat is more powerful than Greater Weapon Focus and Greater Weapon Specialization combined and it does not require Fighter 8, just Fighter 4 and BAB 8. Ditto for Ranged Weapon Mastery.</p><p></p><p>2) Duskblades. Full BAB, two good saves, D8 hit points, many cool abilities, and arcane buff and damage spells.</p><p></p><p>3) Metamagic Specialist allows Sorcerers to spontaneously cast Quicken Spells (if they take the Quicken Spell feat) 4 or more times per day. This is huge since Sorcerers can already be metamagic specialists. Compare this to the Sudden Quicken feat which has 6 feat prereqs (hence, Sorcerers cannot get it at all until 15th or 18th level unless they have a special PrC) and can only be done once per day. Granted, the feat does not increase the spell level, but the fact that Sorcerers can spontaneously Quicken compared to everyone else only being able to Quicken by preparing spells (shy of a metamagic rod or Sudden Quicken) and this is real huge.</p><p></p><p>So, Sorcerers can start Quickening spells at 9th level 4 or more times per day with one feat whereas previously, they could only do it once per day by taking 7 specific feats by 15th level. This totally changes the balance of power between Sorcerers and other classes with a single feat.</p><p></p><p></p><p>PHB2 has some good concepts in it like affiliations, but many of the classes and feats introduced by it are borderline if not flat out broken. IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3010083, member: 2011"] PHB2 is the epitome of the "bigger, badder, better" syndrome. At least many of the benefits of BoED require the PC to be played not only good, but extremely good, and those benefits can be taken away if the PC does evil actions. With PHB2, it just flat out breaks the gaming concepts. As examples: 1) Melee Weapon Mastery as a single feat is more powerful than Greater Weapon Focus and Greater Weapon Specialization combined and it does not require Fighter 8, just Fighter 4 and BAB 8. Ditto for Ranged Weapon Mastery. 2) Duskblades. Full BAB, two good saves, D8 hit points, many cool abilities, and arcane buff and damage spells. 3) Metamagic Specialist allows Sorcerers to spontaneously cast Quicken Spells (if they take the Quicken Spell feat) 4 or more times per day. This is huge since Sorcerers can already be metamagic specialists. Compare this to the Sudden Quicken feat which has 6 feat prereqs (hence, Sorcerers cannot get it at all until 15th or 18th level unless they have a special PrC) and can only be done once per day. Granted, the feat does not increase the spell level, but the fact that Sorcerers can spontaneously Quicken compared to everyone else only being able to Quicken by preparing spells (shy of a metamagic rod or Sudden Quicken) and this is real huge. So, Sorcerers can start Quickening spells at 9th level 4 or more times per day with one feat whereas previously, they could only do it once per day by taking 7 specific feats by 15th level. This totally changes the balance of power between Sorcerers and other classes with a single feat. PHB2 has some good concepts in it like affiliations, but many of the classes and feats introduced by it are borderline if not flat out broken. IMO. [/QUOTE]
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