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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6686106" data-attributes="member: 42582">Another system that can handle this toggle between abstraction and zooming in is HeroWars/Quest - anything, from a debate to a combat to an overland journey to a courtship can be handled as a simple contest (one roll, either opposed or vs a static DC) or an extended contest (analogous to a 4e skill challenge).To constrain the metagaming element you point to, I think it helps to have other devices for handling the way consequences feed back into play. So that if, say, one system is more likely to be bloodier than the other, the rest of the game can make use of the impact of "I got particularly badly bloodied by this situation that I really cared about and so wanted to resolve in detail."To give an example of what I have in mind: In BW, an extended resolution is likely to consume more fate points than a simple resolution - which can give rise to the sort of metagaming issue you describe - but there are benefits in terms of PC development to spending fate points on skill and stat checks, so the incentives cut both ways rather than pushing in just one direction.</blockquote>