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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Eldritch_Lord" data-source="post: 5476131" data-attributes="member: 52073">One option for different metamagic is going back to the 2e version--each metamagic feat is instead a spell or series of spells which are cast before the spell you want to metamagic.  To cast an empowered fireball, for instance, you might cast empower I on one round and fireball on the next.  That doesn't quite work in 3e where metamagic isn't worth enough to justify waiting a round, but perhaps this could work:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Every metamagic spell is cast as a swift action.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Metamagic spells come in series.  [Feat Name] I is a spell of the spell's normal adjustment (empower I is 2nd level, maximize I is 3rd, etc.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The II and III spells in the series are a number of levels apart equal to the normal adjustment (Empower Spell is +2 adjust, so empower I is a 2nd level spell, empower II is 4th, and empower III is a 6th level spell).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The I spell affects up to 3rd level spells, the II spell affects up to 6th level, and the III affects up to 9th level.  If there isn't room in the progression for a particular II or III spell, it doesn't exist (e.g. twin III would be 12th level, so there is no twin III</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">There is no Quicken Spell, because your swift action is being used and going back to the 3.0 "free action once per round" thing isn't happening.</li> </ul>So if you wanted to cast an empowered fireball, for instance, you would learn empower I and fireball, then cast empower I as a swift action and immediately thereafter cast fireball as a standard action, resulting in an empowered fireball.  If you wanted to cast a persistent divine power, well, you don't, 'cause persistent I is a 6th level spell that only affects 3rd level and lower spells and there is no persistent II or persistent III.Benefits:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You can use metamagic with your highest-level slots if you know the appropriate metamagic spells.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The level of the spell doesn't change, so you don't have to compare e.g. empowered fireballs and cones of cold to see if the metamagic is worth it.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Metamagic costs additional slots, so every time you drop a twin or persistent you're giving up an additional 4th or 6th level spell; metamagic your spells carefully.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The more powerful metamagic simply can't be used with higher-level spells because the metamagic spells don't exist, limiting abuse.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Since it uses up a swift action, metamagic becomes like metapsionics (i.e. only 1 per spell is feasible).</li> </ul>Thoughts?</blockquote>

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