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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jimlock" data-source="post: 5576893" data-attributes="member: 6674931">Believe me... If there is ONE person is the world that hates supplements more... its me.. I've argued on this "you gotta let me use this book!" logic over and over again...I can't agree more on why these supplement come out in the first place...However this is a debate about something else...The've only written "supplement" on the book. I used the term "official" so as to make clear its a WotC product, so don't worry about any kisses of death... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />It's funny how you evade answering to what the book says though... I'm really eager to hear what you have to say as far as that goes...What is CORE? It's the base of the system. The minimum one needs to play the game. There's no need to buy any of the supplements, for you can always play with just the core rulebooks.......But that doesn't mean that the supplement's are not an extension of this system. And they are just as optional as the original system is.Would you kindly point me to where in the CORE books it states that the core books are the absolute and only reference for the rules of the game, while the rest of the supplements are not? Please?Right you are not confusing it... then where does this come from?You're clearly confusing SRD with RAW. A&EG doesn't have rules in it? If one uses A&EG in his game doesn't he follow the RULES AS WRITTEN in the book? ...however or as much as he follows the RULES AS WRITTEN in the PHB?I'd advise you to google what RAW means... and then visit WotC site to see what SRD means...?Epic Level Handbook? Funny you mentioned that book...In 3.0, the Manyshot feat, was found in ELH... while in 3.5 it can be found in the PHB... Please explain to me why i'm less allowed (therefore i have to go into house-ruling) to take the feat in 3.0 than in 3.5? Oh i forgot... because in 3.0 it's in RAW (!!!), while in 3.5 it's in this romantic novel called "Epic Level Handbook" that happens to have been published by the same company....Moreover, by you, it's more correct to play epic levels by the almost nonexistent rules found in the CORE DMG, than by the foul Epic Level's handbook.... Because in the DMG one can follow the Rules As Written, while in Epic Level HAndbook there are no written Rules to follow...right.In your opinion:-It is better for the DM to "fabricate" some rule for Craft-poisonmaking, because the CORE DMG says so... than to follow the Skill explained/designed in Comp. Adventurer.-It is better for the DM to find on his own how to treat Sneak Attack in respect to touch attack and ranged touch attack spells, because the DMG says he should "find his own way out" in case there is no rule to solve a conflict... than to use the rule explicitly explained in Comp. Arcane.-It is better for the DM to figure on his own what happens when a Hidden character moves from cover to cover... than to follow the rule in Comp. Adventurer....well you know what? all the above rules have been incorporated into Rules Compendium now... damn... it's still a supplement.. isn't it?  Damn I can't consider them as part of my CORE rules even now because they are still not in my CORE books...Even this......i cannot follow.... cause it's still not part of my CORE rules... My CORE rules are my CORE RULES... and i have to follow the AS WRITTEN... cause the rest of the books are all about poetry...</blockquote>

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