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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 5577347" data-attributes="member: 95493">Vespucci's Point of View:The only rules the DM should be required to adhere to are the core books (DMG,PHB and MM) of any edition. Everything else beyond that is the DM's choice, regardless if it has the WotC sticker or not.If this model is followed it stops the feeling of "player entitlement" because a certain book has the WotC brand.It doesn't matter if WotC makes it any more than anyone coming up with additional rules the DM should not be forced to follow them.Jimlock's Point of View:You are confusing your terms. (Tovec: which really isn't that important.)Core - DMG,PHB,MM1RAW - rules as written, rules the way they were written in any editionSRD - system reference document, both the core and expanded material for a given editionIf not specified most people will assume you mean 3.5 not 3.0.There is a 3.0 source called the arms and equipment guide. Many DMs will allow it in 3.0 games because it is designed with that ruleset.Many DMs may not allow 3.0 material in 3.5 games as much of it has been updated in one form or another. They are under less obligation than normal if it were another 3.5 book.Oh, he also seems to take objection with you saying everything should be considered optional and unofficial beyond "core". Including the houserules me and my buddies come up with.Both Point of View:Consult your DM.General agreement on the rules - mostly.Consult your DM - worth repeating.Umbran's Point of View:Stop fighting or else. (Tovec: Boo <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />)My Point of View:Oh, you guys each got a few things wrong in your own arguments but that's cool, I'm not going to nitpick.However..The epic level handbook is a different case entirely because it covers material NOT related to the CORE rules. In much of the rules from any source it is generally not assumed players play epic characters. The rules in this book override restrictions on many things but provide a tangible (written) exclusion as it says "EPIC" somewhere on it.Ie. Epic weapons and epic armor bonuses exceeding a base +5 enhancement bonus.This is not generally the case with regular (A+EG) material because the regular material focuses on pre-epic. So unless I miss some glaring omission the rules of not being able to go past a certain number should be followed.Hope this helps clarify things. Please stop the fighting and think of the children.</blockquote>

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