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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7521055" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>Then you’re not getting a complete picture of how much better of a combattant the fighter is.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Even at low levels, the fighter does much better in combat due to better weapons, meaning higher damage, and class and subclass features which can further improve damage. And really, the fighter is generally more likely to hit, because they’re going to make strength and/or Dexterity the first priority for their Attributes. Using the standard array, you get 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, and 8 before bonuses from race. Using point buy can shift those numbers around a bit, but in general, a character can only count on having one ability at 16 or higher, may two if they dump a couple other abilities. So a 16 Dex Wizard is a much better Melee combatant than most Wizards. A more apt comparison would be a 16 strength fighter with +5 to hit for 2d6+3 with her greatsword compared to a 12 dexterity wizard with a +3 to hit for 1d4+1 with his dagger. That’s a 10% better chance to hit for about triple the expected damage. That’s before taking into account the possibility of Great Weapon Fighting letting the fighter re-roll 1s and 2s on that greatsword hit. And the difference only gets bigger from there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 7521055, member: 6779196"] Then you’re not getting a complete picture of how much better of a combattant the fighter is. Even at low levels, the fighter does much better in combat due to better weapons, meaning higher damage, and class and subclass features which can further improve damage. And really, the fighter is generally more likely to hit, because they’re going to make strength and/or Dexterity the first priority for their Attributes. Using the standard array, you get 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, and 8 before bonuses from race. Using point buy can shift those numbers around a bit, but in general, a character can only count on having one ability at 16 or higher, may two if they dump a couple other abilities. So a 16 Dex Wizard is a much better Melee combatant than most Wizards. A more apt comparison would be a 16 strength fighter with +5 to hit for 2d6+3 with her greatsword compared to a 12 dexterity wizard with a +3 to hit for 1d4+1 with his dagger. That’s a 10% better chance to hit for about triple the expected damage. That’s before taking into account the possibility of Great Weapon Fighting letting the fighter re-roll 1s and 2s on that greatsword hit. And the difference only gets bigger from there. [/QUOTE]
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