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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 6783762" data-attributes="member: 6716779">They also claimed 4E was doing very well and sold better than 3E on preorders (did not specify 3.0 or 3.5) turned into sold better than 3E on the forums.  Peopel also thought being number 1 on Amazon was hundreds of thousands sold and earlier in the year it was revealed that Amazon had sold about 40k copies (around April?). In hte same amount of time 3.0 also had the FRCS released. I would not be surprised if 5E has made more money than 3E in a similar amount of time. I just do not think they have sold 300k PHB in the 1st month which was what 3.0 did. I do not know how many starter boxed sets got sold though but even then I suspect a lot of sales were to people who also bought the PHB as well. HotDQ probably sold a lot as well.  When I say I think 3.0 has sold better than 5E I mean PHB not overall sales of an edition or things like profit margins which no one really knows. I think only the 1E PHB over a decade or the BECMI basic red box set compares with or beats the 3.0 PHB in sales.  The 40k 5E PHB sold on Amazon was in April here on ENworld (they got that info via software used on Amazon) and apparently Amazon sells abot 30% of a books total release. That would have put the ales of a 5E PHB around 110k and that also compares alight with the ICV2 estimate of the RPG market which went from 15 million to 25 million the following year once again assuming the 5E launch was responsible for a 66% jump in the total RPG market (or the estimate was way way off). Once again though throw in the HotDQ and Starter set and I would beleive claims that 5E is doing better than 30 in terms of revenue/profit in the 1st year. I just have my doubts about PHB vs PHB sold. I would argue that 3E had the bigger impact as well and 15 years on its still here via PF I doubt 5E will be here in 15 years time. 5E has been a big hit RPG sales wise maybe better than they expected. Its a launch year though and it doesn't seem to have done anything that 2E or 3E failed to do. Its also sold faster than OD&D and 1E in the same amount of time but even 4E can claim that due to modern D&D front loaded release format.</blockquote>

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