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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6783782" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>Which isn't a surprise. 3e sold well and there was a lot of fans who bought the first 4e book not knowing what to expect. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Eight months. Amazon has been estimated to account for 30% of sales. So even 40k (which was the low estimate IIRC) would put sales at 120k. Close to a third of the total lifetime sales of 3.5e. And it continued to sell the following four months.</p><p>And that 40k was the minimum. It's very likely higher. </p><p></p><p></p><p>The 300k number sounds in error. I can imagine that in the first year, but not first month. Unless sales were very different. That's not just a huge number for D&D, that's a huge number for any book. </p><p>Neilsen Book Data put sales of the PHB at 20k+ the first week, and I doubt WotC would have been happy at 1/10th the sales of 3.0. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I remember that. The software was good but not 100% accurate and it even had a disclaimer on the site, since it started low and worked up. (Can you find that thread? It'd be worth double checking what that site says now.)</p><p></p><p>IIRC it worked by taking a known sale at the bottom. A book that has a sale. a=1. And then it looks for b which has to have more sales. b > a. So it makes b = 2. c > b so c = 3. And z > y so Z = 26. But at any point in that chain it could skip a number. At the upper end it could be off by thousands of units. It wasn't designed to work for bestsellers and had a huge margin of error. </p><p></p><p></p><p>This depends on if there's a revision or a 6e. If there's a popular 6e then no, if there's a poor 6e than 5e will still be strong. I see 5e going the distance.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not the launch year any more. Even the DMG came out over a year ago. Meanwhile, Paizo is putting out brand new content. And that year old PHB is still crushing PF.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6783782, member: 37579"] Which isn't a surprise. 3e sold well and there was a lot of fans who bought the first 4e book not knowing what to expect. Eight months. Amazon has been estimated to account for 30% of sales. So even 40k (which was the low estimate IIRC) would put sales at 120k. Close to a third of the total lifetime sales of 3.5e. And it continued to sell the following four months. And that 40k was the minimum. It's very likely higher. The 300k number sounds in error. I can imagine that in the first year, but not first month. Unless sales were very different. That's not just a huge number for D&D, that's a huge number for any book. Neilsen Book Data put sales of the PHB at 20k+ the first week, and I doubt WotC would have been happy at 1/10th the sales of 3.0. I remember that. The software was good but not 100% accurate and it even had a disclaimer on the site, since it started low and worked up. (Can you find that thread? It'd be worth double checking what that site says now.) IIRC it worked by taking a known sale at the bottom. A book that has a sale. a=1. And then it looks for b which has to have more sales. b > a. So it makes b = 2. c > b so c = 3. And z > y so Z = 26. But at any point in that chain it could skip a number. At the upper end it could be off by thousands of units. It wasn't designed to work for bestsellers and had a huge margin of error. This depends on if there's a revision or a 6e. If there's a popular 6e then no, if there's a poor 6e than 5e will still be strong. I see 5e going the distance. It's not the launch year any more. Even the DMG came out over a year ago. Meanwhile, Paizo is putting out brand new content. And that year old PHB is still crushing PF. [/QUOTE]
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