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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 6784114" data-attributes="member: 6716779"><p>That was in 9 months and the estimate was based the usual % of books sold on Amazon but the numbers also feed into the the estimates coming out of ICV2 sales.</p><p></p><p> Make no mistake 5E has been a smash hit. Its unlikely they have sold more in the 1st year than 3.0 or the BECMI boxed set. The upper limit is probably 200k PHB but that would be close to all of the RPG market increase from 2014-15 according to ICV2 estimate. People see best seller on Amazon and assume hundreds of thousands of units sold but much like a NYT best seller one can do that without actually moving that many units. 5E is selling like gangbusters though for an RPG and D&D. Its selling faster in units than virtually every other edition of D&D (3.5 included) with the exception of 3.0 and the Basic Red box and maybe the 2E PHB (which actually outsold the 1E PHB in its 1st year). 3.0 was stupidly front loaded though (resulting in 3.5 being brought forward 2 years) so 5E might outsell that as well (eventually) just not in the 1st month or year IMHO.</p><p></p><p>1E had 40k print runs at times though and was reprinted something like 16 or 17 times including into the launch of 2E with the final print run in 1990 (before the 2012 reprints). It was a slow burner by modern standards and had several adventures sell 100k+ units or even 200k+ for some of them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 6784114, member: 6716779"] That was in 9 months and the estimate was based the usual % of books sold on Amazon but the numbers also feed into the the estimates coming out of ICV2 sales. Make no mistake 5E has been a smash hit. Its unlikely they have sold more in the 1st year than 3.0 or the BECMI boxed set. The upper limit is probably 200k PHB but that would be close to all of the RPG market increase from 2014-15 according to ICV2 estimate. People see best seller on Amazon and assume hundreds of thousands of units sold but much like a NYT best seller one can do that without actually moving that many units. 5E is selling like gangbusters though for an RPG and D&D. Its selling faster in units than virtually every other edition of D&D (3.5 included) with the exception of 3.0 and the Basic Red box and maybe the 2E PHB (which actually outsold the 1E PHB in its 1st year). 3.0 was stupidly front loaded though (resulting in 3.5 being brought forward 2 years) so 5E might outsell that as well (eventually) just not in the 1st month or year IMHO. 1E had 40k print runs at times though and was reprinted something like 16 or 17 times including into the launch of 2E with the final print run in 1990 (before the 2012 reprints). It was a slow burner by modern standards and had several adventures sell 100k+ units or even 200k+ for some of them. [/QUOTE]
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