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<blockquote data-quote="Magestrike" data-source="post: 305969" data-attributes="member: 6259">My opinions...for what they are worthI have followed this thread with great interest over the past few days, and I must say that there are a lot of very good opinions on here about what happened and what to do.&nbsp; Some I agree with; others I do not.On most of the opinions, I must say that for my money, I agree with Clark.&nbsp; Again, in a storm of chaos and confusion, Clark reigns in with the voice of simplicity and reason.Wizards is not a d20 publisher.&nbsp; They just arent.Is this the inherent problem?&nbsp; Yes and no.&nbsp; They dont have to follow the license like every one else does, therefore they simply have an advantage over every other publisher.&nbsp; However, the most basic problem here isnt that fact.&nbsp; The problem is this.&nbsp; What is an ENnie and what is it supposed to stand for?This is the question that needs to be answered and all the confusion in this thread is moot until it is.&nbsp; Is it supposed to be a reflection of the RPG market and the best there is in it?&nbsp; If so, Wizards should be included.Is it supposed to be a reflection of the d20 market?&nbsp; Then Wizards shouldnt be included.I think it boils down to those two basic questions.&nbsp; Once those are answered, then everything else falls into place.&nbsp;&nbsp; I do agree and like the idea about Wizards taking themselves out of contention and joining forces to sponsor the event.&nbsp; Thats a good idea.&nbsp; On the topic of what winning/being nominated for an ENnie means to a publisher, I also have an opinion.&nbsp; I was involved with both Thunderhead products that were nominated this year, and I can tell you that when I saw that they had been put up, I was estactic.&nbsp; THG put out two products before joining with MEG, and both were nominated.&nbsp; I know the team that was involved with both and how much blood, sweat and tears went into producing both.&nbsp; Being nominated with the possibility of winning, in my opinion, means a great deal and meant a GREAT deal to the team.&nbsp; Whether it affects sales and whatnot I cant comment on.&nbsp; But I do know that it made a regular guy with a regular job, a family, and a regular life outside of the &quot;industry&quot; EXTREMELY happy.&nbsp; Thanks for the opportunity.In closing, I would like to say congratulations to all the nominees, the winners, the judges, the publishers, the fans, the ENWorld crew and everyone else involved.&nbsp; Wonderful job.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Warren&quot;aka Mage&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Magestrike, post: 305969, member: 6259"] [b]My opinions...for what they are worth[/b] I have followed this thread with great interest over the past few days, and I must say that there are a lot of very good opinions on here about what happened and what to do. Some I agree with; others I do not. On most of the opinions, I must say that for my money, I agree with Clark. Again, in a storm of chaos and confusion, Clark reigns in with the voice of simplicity and reason. Wizards is not a d20 publisher. They just arent. Is this the inherent problem? Yes and no. They dont have to follow the license like every one else does, therefore they simply have an advantage over every other publisher. However, the most basic problem here isnt that fact. The problem is this. What is an ENnie and what is it supposed to stand for? This is the question that needs to be answered and all the confusion in this thread is moot until it is. Is it supposed to be a reflection of the RPG market and the best there is in it? If so, Wizards should be included. Is it supposed to be a reflection of the d20 market? Then Wizards shouldnt be included. I think it boils down to those two basic questions. Once those are answered, then everything else falls into place. I do agree and like the idea about Wizards taking themselves out of contention and joining forces to sponsor the event. Thats a good idea. On the topic of what winning/being nominated for an ENnie means to a publisher, I also have an opinion. I was involved with both Thunderhead products that were nominated this year, and I can tell you that when I saw that they had been put up, I was estactic. THG put out two products before joining with MEG, and both were nominated. I know the team that was involved with both and how much blood, sweat and tears went into producing both. Being nominated with the possibility of winning, in my opinion, means a great deal and meant a GREAT deal to the team. Whether it affects sales and whatnot I cant comment on. But I do know that it made a regular guy with a regular job, a family, and a regular life outside of the "industry" EXTREMELY happy. Thanks for the opportunity. In closing, I would like to say congratulations to all the nominees, the winners, the judges, the publishers, the fans, the ENWorld crew and everyone else involved. Wonderful job. :) Warren "aka Mage" [/QUOTE]

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