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<blockquote data-quote="DPGDarrin" data-source="post: 310203" data-attributes="member: 4949"><p>Morrus, no offense here, but I think that this could be a dangerous choice, and one that could jeapordize the legitimacy of the ENnies. As someone that has argued for reform, I'm not sure that this is the right way to go about it.</p><p></p><p>Some possible issues are that with this information, the actual distribution of different company's products could be determined to within a few thousand. I know that there are publishers that don't want that known to anyone outside of themselves, and I can't say that I blame them. Sure, you'd be doing it in a public, non-secretive way, but there could be some backlash generated.</p><p></p><p>Second, and more importantly, the fans and the majority of the publishers have spoken. I argued for a tiered system, and both other publishers and fans spoke up against it because they want the best products to be abe to compete head to head. Since the majority of the people involved are calling for no change, or little change, this would be going against the wishes of most people that have spoken up thus far.</p><p></p><p>Another issue is that by making the votes count according to market share, you will be essentially telling people that if they vote for one pblisher, their vote will count as a single vote. If they vote for another it might only be .75% of a vote, but if they vote for WotC (god forbid <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> ) that vote might count only as .1% to .25% of a vote. I don't think people are going to want to throw their vote away in this manner, and the higher rated publishers will lose by a landslide because of this. I also think that us Americans like the idea of a single vote standing for exactly that - a single vote.</p><p></p><p>In addition to this, there is a very real chance that WotC will decide to not participate if they are subjected to this type of scenario. Even though they swept the awards, having WotC participate added a great deal of legitimacy to the awards.</p><p></p><p>And what if the popularity (or lack thereof) changes the market share of a given publisher between the time the survey is conducted and the time of the vote?</p><p></p><p>My point of view has changed a bit since this discussion began, but I think that you should listen to the people and the publishers that have voiced their opinions in this discussion. I would add a few categories that only smaller publishers can enter, and otherwise not change a thing. As Mystic Eye, and FFG, and others have said, their chances of winning against WotC next year may not be great, but if they do win, that win will be that much sweeter. Truly excellent products will be able to stand on their own. Also, after this year, I wouldn't be at all surprised if many people choose not to vote for WotC just to give the other people a chance (which in itself isn't the most fair thing).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DPGDarrin, post: 310203, member: 4949"] Morrus, no offense here, but I think that this could be a dangerous choice, and one that could jeapordize the legitimacy of the ENnies. As someone that has argued for reform, I'm not sure that this is the right way to go about it. Some possible issues are that with this information, the actual distribution of different company's products could be determined to within a few thousand. I know that there are publishers that don't want that known to anyone outside of themselves, and I can't say that I blame them. Sure, you'd be doing it in a public, non-secretive way, but there could be some backlash generated. Second, and more importantly, the fans and the majority of the publishers have spoken. I argued for a tiered system, and both other publishers and fans spoke up against it because they want the best products to be abe to compete head to head. Since the majority of the people involved are calling for no change, or little change, this would be going against the wishes of most people that have spoken up thus far. Another issue is that by making the votes count according to market share, you will be essentially telling people that if they vote for one pblisher, their vote will count as a single vote. If they vote for another it might only be .75% of a vote, but if they vote for WotC (god forbid :D ) that vote might count only as .1% to .25% of a vote. I don't think people are going to want to throw their vote away in this manner, and the higher rated publishers will lose by a landslide because of this. I also think that us Americans like the idea of a single vote standing for exactly that - a single vote. In addition to this, there is a very real chance that WotC will decide to not participate if they are subjected to this type of scenario. Even though they swept the awards, having WotC participate added a great deal of legitimacy to the awards. And what if the popularity (or lack thereof) changes the market share of a given publisher between the time the survey is conducted and the time of the vote? My point of view has changed a bit since this discussion began, but I think that you should listen to the people and the publishers that have voiced their opinions in this discussion. I would add a few categories that only smaller publishers can enter, and otherwise not change a thing. As Mystic Eye, and FFG, and others have said, their chances of winning against WotC next year may not be great, but if they do win, that win will be that much sweeter. Truly excellent products will be able to stand on their own. Also, after this year, I wouldn't be at all surprised if many people choose not to vote for WotC just to give the other people a chance (which in itself isn't the most fair thing). [/QUOTE]
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