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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ShaggySpellsword" data-source="post: 5286084" data-attributes="member: 17626">I posted this rules question over at the other message board I frequent this morning, but I didn't get as complete or authoritative an answer as I'd like:I was tinkering with a Warforged Brawler and a question occured to me:If my fighter with the Brawler Style Talent fights with 2 spiked gauntlets and has the 2-weapon defense feat, what happens?A. Does he get +1 AC, +2 Fortitude, and +1 Shield to AC and Reflex because he wields a weapon in his primary hand (spiked gauntlet) and his off hand is free (unarmed weapon), but also has an off-hand weapon. (aka Spiked Gauntlets always count as both wielding a weapon in the hand and NOT wielding a weapon in the hand)B. Does he get a +1 Shield to AC and Reflex because he is wielding 2 weapons, thus disqualifying himself from having a "free" off-hand for Brawler Style? (aka Spiked Gauntlets always count as a weapon and never as a "free" hand. This seems to be directly opposed to the intention of the Brawler build's options. This is what the (admittedly, not authoritative) character builder does.)C. Does he get nothing because he has no weapon in his main hand, disqualifying him from Brawler, and no weapon in either hand, disqualifying him from 2-weapon defense (aka Spiked Gauntlets don't ever count as wielding a weapon)The issues: 1. Does wearing a Spiked Gauntlet count as "holding a melee weapon"?2. Does wearing a Spiked Gauntlet count as "wielding a weapon in your primary hand"?3. Does wearing a Spiked Gauntlet count as your "off-hand" being "free"?Relevant Rules text (From Character Builder):Two Weapon Defense While holding a melee weapon in each hand, you gain a +1 shield bonus to AC and Reflex.Brawler Style While you wield a weapon in your primary hand and your off hand is free or grabbing a creature, you gain a +1 bonus to AC and a +2 bonus to FortitudeSpiked Gauntlet Simple Melee/Group: Unarmed/Properties: Off-Hand</blockquote>

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