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<blockquote data-quote="Koloth" data-source="post: 6532641" data-attributes="member: 6706231">Sounds like the PC Cleric is NOT the cardinal of this particular building.&nbsp;&nbsp; So his rank will buy him some latitude but he has no real authority over the building employees.&nbsp;&nbsp; Especially the ones guarding the secret.&nbsp; How did the PCs come to learn of the secret?&nbsp;&nbsp; If from a building employee, maybe he/she also has a way to get to the secret.&nbsp; If via PC divination, did the divination provide any clues on how to obtain?&nbsp; Is the PC Cleric willing to sacrifice his career over this?&nbsp; If not, maybe he shouldn't be part of the infiltration party in order to maintain plausible deniability.&nbsp; Does trying to steal this secret violate his vows to the church?&nbsp; To his deity?&nbsp; Has he sought guidance from his deity over this?&nbsp; If not, why not?&nbsp;&nbsp; Why does the party feel they need to steal the secret?&nbsp; One non-thief skills approach is to try to bluff their way in by having one of the PCs pretending to be an Arch-Cardinal on an inspection trip.&nbsp; The PC-Cleric would lend some believability to this. Maybe the knowledge of the secret was leaked to see what the PC-cleric will do.&nbsp; Sort of a loyalty test.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Koloth, post: 6532641, member: 6706231"] Sounds like the PC Cleric is NOT the cardinal of this particular building. So his rank will buy him some latitude but he has no real authority over the building employees. Especially the ones guarding the secret. How did the PCs come to learn of the secret? If from a building employee, maybe he/she also has a way to get to the secret. If via PC divination, did the divination provide any clues on how to obtain? Is the PC Cleric willing to sacrifice his career over this? If not, maybe he shouldn't be part of the infiltration party in order to maintain plausible deniability. Does trying to steal this secret violate his vows to the church? To his deity? Has he sought guidance from his deity over this? If not, why not? Why does the party feel they need to steal the secret? One non-thief skills approach is to try to bluff their way in by having one of the PCs pretending to be an Arch-Cardinal on an inspection trip. The PC-Cleric would lend some believability to this. Maybe the knowledge of the secret was leaked to see what the PC-cleric will do. Sort of a loyalty test. [/QUOTE]

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