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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 1874739" data-attributes="member: 5834">reIt is faithless because both of them know what they are getting into. The act of sex to a Paladin (who does not think in a modern sense) would be an act meant for propagation. That is the primary purpose of the act. A man who intends to sleep with a women risks giving that woman a child. A man who has not sworn faith to that woman risks giving her a child he has not sworn to care for and raise, making his child a bastard and his woman a whore. Would a Lawful Good Paladin do that?Contrary to what you state Joshua, save for a few cult type religions, doing such a thing would be extremely poor to do to a woman and a child. That is not just in Western culture, but in Eastern culture as well. Sexual phlandering is looked down upon from a moral standpoint just about anywhere you go because it is bad for society on the whole for a variety of reasons from the spread of disease to bastard children. No Lawful Good Paladin trying to set a good example for those of his faith or society would engage in such behavior. Believe what you want, but sexual philandering is poor conduct and at the very least a chaotic act.It is projecting human culture upon it. The majority of cultures, whether they promote monagamy or polygamy, put forth marriage and faith as necessary to the relationship between men and women. Even in Communist China, women and men who engage in casual sex are not looked upon as good nor is the act looked upon as a social ideal.You could create some religion that has sex rites, but if it is lawful it will require those sex rites be between two people devoted to each other. A Lawful Good Paladin must not only be good, but lawful, and you will never convince me that casual sex is good for society from a Lawful standpoint with so much evidence to the contrary.Philandering is not the act of a Lawful Good upholder of the ideals of his religion. That is what Paladins are even if they follow a Neutral Good or Chaotic Good religion. They themselves represent a different branch of the religion more bent on order and proper social conduct.As far as the rules go, this area is very mutable according to the inclinations agreed upon by the DM and the players. There is nothing written in stone that says a DM can't nix a Paladin's paladinhood for philandering and there is nothing that directly states a Paladin must be chaste. In my world, the Lawful aspect of a Paladin's alignment would be suspect if he were a philanderer. I would make him atone for overly indulging his sexual appetites, just like if he drank or ate too much. I hold Paladin's to high standards. They are the paragon's of their religion according to their god, and they must set the standard others must live up to, otherwise they mine as well just be a fighter.Anyhow, a Paladin who lost his status because of philandering would be an interesting character. Kind of like Launcelot who could not obtain the Holy Grail because of his relationship with Guinevere. He was still the best fighter in the land, but his soul was tarnished by his adulterous love for his best friend's wife. A man who sleeps around and cannot control himself could find himself in many, many bad situations, as is oft the case for philanderous men. That could lead to many strange social events and alot quests for atonement, not to mention some son or daughter showing up later looking for daddy.</blockquote>

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