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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 1874998" data-attributes="member: 7240">While Paladin sexual continence is a whole separate issue, I find myself siding with Umbran here. There are various religious or at least quasi-religious figures who indeed have had children by multiple women for some higher purpose, like Brigham Young or Ibn Saud but none of them fits into the crusader archetype the Paladin is supposed to represent. In 1e, I remember that there were strict limits on Paladins' material acquisitions so as to prevent them from settling down and founding established organizations like what the original poster describes. If I were GMing a powerful paladin, I would probably require that the character begin taking levels in a new class like Fighter or Cleric if he wanted to do something like this. It would not necessarily entail an abandonment of his former religious or political ideals, however; it would simply change how they were put into practice.In the one campaign I GMed that contained a paladin, the all paladins were members of a holy order associated with the imperial government; only homosexuals were allowed to join... kind of like the de facto situation with parts of the Catholic church from time to time.</blockquote>