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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1880523" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>Well, that depends on a few factors:  which version of the arthurian myths are you using, and what you choose to focus upon.  A lot of the relationship stuff comes from Mallory, and doesn't appear with the same connotations in the Wace, Vulgate or the Boron versions. Tristram and Isolde, of course, didn't originate in the Arthurian mythos, Mallory transplanted them there.  And they're classic star-crossed lovers...clearly meant to be together, but separated by circumstance, duty and the trickery of others.</p><p> </p><p> In fact, trickery and deception by others is the main problem for most of these myths.  I mean, a lack of communication is what plagues these people.  That, and lots of malcontents with potions, most of which are responsible for people getting busy with other folks.  Lots of characters in the stories have no consequences for their actions, at least not directly:  Mordred rapes his way across half of England, sleeps with a large number of married women and still manages to join the round table, and eventually claims the kingship and Guiniveire....until he is finally slain by Lancelot, iirc.</p><p> </p><p> I mean, Lancelot is tricked into sleeping with Elayne...and the result of that union is Galahad, the Grail Knight...and possibly tied with Lancelot or Percival as the quintisential paladin archetypical character.  Not too shabby.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1880523, member: 151"] Well, that depends on a few factors: which version of the arthurian myths are you using, and what you choose to focus upon. A lot of the relationship stuff comes from Mallory, and doesn't appear with the same connotations in the Wace, Vulgate or the Boron versions. Tristram and Isolde, of course, didn't originate in the Arthurian mythos, Mallory transplanted them there. And they're classic star-crossed lovers...clearly meant to be together, but separated by circumstance, duty and the trickery of others. In fact, trickery and deception by others is the main problem for most of these myths. I mean, a lack of communication is what plagues these people. That, and lots of malcontents with potions, most of which are responsible for people getting busy with other folks. Lots of characters in the stories have no consequences for their actions, at least not directly: Mordred rapes his way across half of England, sleeps with a large number of married women and still manages to join the round table, and eventually claims the kingship and Guiniveire....until he is finally slain by Lancelot, iirc. I mean, Lancelot is tricked into sleeping with Elayne...and the result of that union is Galahad, the Grail Knight...and possibly tied with Lancelot or Percival as the quintisential paladin archetypical character. Not too shabby. [/QUOTE]
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