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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Goblyns Hoard" data-source="post: 1887287" data-attributes="member: 19970">I think his point was that there's also plenty of good sex that doesn't bring about bad influences... the good sex between Arthur and Guenevere is never a problem.  And the Lancelot Guenevere thing is the main story arc in so many of the more basic retellings of the Arthurian legends - there are some in which Mordred barely gets a mention (not saying this is a good thing... just that it's happened).My take on Paladins and sex and marriage... it really has to depend on the campaign.  If your campaign is going for the high chivalric fantasy in the Arthurian vein then faithfulness is required, celibacy is showing an admirable devotion to your god, lechery and casual sex are indescribable sins and will bring about your ultimate downfall.If you have a different campaign style then the decision has to be based on the god that the paladin worships.  Someone like Tyr is probably less concerned about celibacy that someone like Helm or Heironious.  I have my own gods - Paladins of Kin (Goddess of Community, Justice and Tyranny) would probably be required to abstain from all sexual conduct, Paladins of Lymos (God of Light, War and Prejudice) would be expected to marry, have many offspring, but also to remain faithful (and your spouse better be of the same race).  We currently have a Paladin of Fera (Goddess of Nature, Life and Lust) and he is required to NOT remain celibate, though he is required to be faithful to his chosen partner (he is lawful after all).I feel the important point is that the paladin, whilst derived originally from the Arthurian legends (and the various works of fiction that they inspired), should not be limited to such.  I don't have Eberron but my brief skims through it at the FLGS certainly don't inspire me with tales of knights in shining armour, neither does FR.  Greyhawk itself probably more so, but not absolutely.  Kara-Tur, Al-Quadim definitely not.  But all these worlds have paladins, and the concept of a paladin has to be geared toward a holy warrior of a particular culture... so the prevailing culture and their social mores have to be what's used to determine whether or not sex is permissible.The Hoard</blockquote>

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