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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shilsen" data-source="post: 1889417" data-attributes="member: 198"><p>This is where I differ with you. I agree that the ideas for the monk and the paladin class were predicated upon certain cultures. But I don't think those cultural assumptions are necessary to the existence of such classes in the game, and I don't think the classes as they exist in 3e even necessarily call on the original source material as much as you do. Does the PHB monk work for a half-orc order which completely mimics, say, historical Japanese martial arts monasteries? Sure. Does it work for an order of elven mystics whose power comes from their kinship with nature? Sure. Does it work for a secret order of urban halfling commandos who train their bodies and minds to achieve extraordinary physical feats without the benefit of weapons and armor? Sure. The same is true for the paladin. It works well with the grail knight ideal. It also works well with a number of other ideals without having to change anything from the PHB.</p></blockquote><p></p>