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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CleverNickName" data-source="post: 8890564" data-attributes="member: 50987">It took some digging around, but this is what I was talking about.  It's a graph of the top five TTRPGs over the years, from 2004 to 2019.  It shows D&D tied with Paizo in 1st place late around late 2010, when D&D Essentials was released.  Pathfinder then drops to 2nd place for a few months, before rising to the #1 slot for more than 3 years.So, yep, that checks out:  Wizards of the Coast stopped publishing 4E material in 2010, and Pathfinder rose to #1 immediately thereafter.[ATTACH=full]272101[/ATTACH]Here's the other one I was looking for, also with the Top Five games over the years, but with key events (such as release dates) marked.[ATTACH=full]272102[/ATTACH]It's interesting to look at for a couple of reasons.One, Pathfinder jumped to 2nd Place immediately as it was released, meaning it already had a huge fan base ready to support it.  A fan base at least as large and as active as the previous #2 slot (Warhammer 40K, which was considered at the time to be the "next-best-thing" to playing D&D.)  I'd wager that those fans are still there, with plenty of reinforcements...especially if <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/are-you-jumping-ship-what-will-you-be-switching-to.694299/page-5#post-8887291" target="_blank">this ENWorld poll</a> is to be believed.Two, D&D shot up from 6th place all the way to 1st place in just three months after 5E was just announced, allowing it to debut in 2nd place behind Pathfinder.  I had been genuinely worried for the D&D brand, and things had been going poorly for them for years-- it was a relief to see so many players and third-party publishers return to D&D after all that time.  I wonder how much of that immediate resurrection was due to the less-restrictive OGL, and the influence of third-party publishers?  And how much of that was from 4E's fans, rushing to buy up the last of the 4E books before they were gone forever?Yup, I agree.</blockquote>

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