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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 9271348" data-attributes="member: 82106">Yeah, basically 4e, TB2, you could do similar stuff in FitD, etc. To elaborate, I own a copy of the DSG and the WSG for 1e AD&amp;D, but I am not even sure we ever read much of them let alone actually used them. This is typical awkward largely unplaytested post-Gygax TSR stuff. It sounded good in the days of 'realism will make your game better', but the fact is, it doesn't, and that was becoming quite apparent in that time frame. I mean, consider that whole WSG 'shelter and fire' chapter. What advantage is there to using some arbitrary %-based tables, which certainly are just filled with numbers pulled out of thin air by some gamer geek in a 4th floor TSR office. I mean, I don't think I have better numbers, but anyone can make up a number out of thin air, why do I need a book and a bunch of tables for that? So, IMHO, something like a Dungeon World game where we use the 'Make Camp', 'Take Watch, and 'Undertake a Perilous Journey' moves seems no less 'realistic' nor less authentic in any sense than the WSG's table after table of arbitrary numbers. Fictional position and dice, plus the GM applying principles to make moves where called for will likely produce a range and type of fiction that is going to be largely similar to the dozens of die rolls and detailed tracking required by the stuff in the WSG. Even back in the day I never really understood what the big draw was.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 9271348, member: 82106"] Yeah, basically 4e, TB2, you could do similar stuff in FitD, etc. To elaborate, I own a copy of the DSG and the WSG for 1e AD&D, but I am not even sure we ever read much of them let alone actually used them. This is typical awkward largely unplaytested post-Gygax TSR stuff. It sounded good in the days of 'realism will make your game better', but the fact is, it doesn't, and that was becoming quite apparent in that time frame. I mean, consider that whole WSG 'shelter and fire' chapter. What advantage is there to using some arbitrary %-based tables, which certainly are just filled with numbers pulled out of thin air by some gamer geek in a 4th floor TSR office. I mean, I don't think I have better numbers, but anyone can make up a number out of thin air, why do I need a book and a bunch of tables for that? So, IMHO, something like a Dungeon World game where we use the 'Make Camp', 'Take Watch, and 'Undertake a Perilous Journey' moves seems no less 'realistic' nor less authentic in any sense than the WSG's table after table of arbitrary numbers. Fictional position and dice, plus the GM applying principles to make moves where called for will likely produce a range and type of fiction that is going to be largely similar to the dozens of die rolls and detailed tracking required by the stuff in the WSG. Even back in the day I never really understood what the big draw was. [/QUOTE]

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