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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coredump" data-source="post: 942947" data-attributes="member: 6939">[Sigh...]Okay, I will explain my intent.Dave No, the sarcasm was not because of the disagreement, it was due to the profound arrogance inherrent in his post.Anubis While possibly not consciously intented, the inherrent message here is that *unlike everybody else* Anubis has a 'fair' bit of knowledge, and once we have *HIS* opinion (oh sorry 'Fact') then it will all be settled; no need to argue anymore, afterall "anubis has spoken"Anubis continues So, you are saying what about those that think it is a reasonable characteristic to factor? Oh wait, Anubis has a 'fair' amount of knowledge, and therefore that is enough to make his assertions 'fact'.  Come on. I have no problem with you having these assertions, but stop painting yourself as the end-all of intelligent discussions.More righteousness... Gee, now your opinions/experiences are "FACTS". And now every weapons expert will agree with you?  What does that say about those that disagree?  Their facts must be 'wrong', and they must not have the knowledge that you do; and must not know any real weapons masters.  What a pompous assinine statement to make.  Having an opinion is fine, stating as pure fact is not.But that isn't enough, talk about chutzpah... Gee, I guess everybody else should just wish they were as knowledgable as Anubis. How stupid for all these people to be concerned about what *you* *think* is "absolutely nothing of value" Yeah, like *your* opinion should be enough to 'end the debate'. How do you fit your ego into the room with you??So, to elaborate, the size and weight of a weapon means *NOTHING* to how fast you can move it??  That is patently absurd. I will guarentee you a 2 lb dirk will be much easier/faster to move than the 20lb sword Dave mentions. If nothing else, physics will take care of that. This just doesn't hold up. Just looking at the dagger and longsword, *how* can they be moved at the same speed? It just defies the laws of physics. You give me a 2' dirk, and you take a 40" sword, I will guarentee the dirk will be faster to move; all other variables being equal.As for the Iaido vs Kendo; I would expect Iaido to be 'faster'. Kendo has become much more formalized, at least at the low-mid levels. The number of allowable blows, and how they are thrown is not prone to realism. From what I have seen, this is relaxed at higher levels. Iaido, otoh, is concerned with quickly using the sword; fast draw and all that. So I would expect low level Iaido to be 'faster' than low level Kendo. But I do not have extensive knowledge of either, so those are just initial assumptions.Now, to get to the actual disagreeing....What both of you are talking about is the role of expertise in how fast a weapon is. No one is arguing that, but you are using that 'fact' to claim that it is the **ONLY** determination to weapon speed.AnubisDave Of *course* a master will be fast/good at what he does. No one is saying otherwise; but that does not make it the *only* criteria. Sure, no problem, but you are not comparing rapier to Ba Gua, you are comparing master to newbie. Now, how about a newbie with a rapier, against a newbie with a Ba Gua? Which one will be able to move it faster?? *THAT* is the point.Just because a 'master' is really good, does not make all weapons equal. A master will compensate for a specific weapons weaknesses, and that may include speed. He will use a 'slower' weapon differently, so that it will not seem as slow; he will use its momentum differently; but that will not allow him to change direction as readily. Being a 'master' has little to do with the weapon you are weilding, it has more to do with understanding yourself, and being able to interpret your opponents.enjoy.</blockquote>

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