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<blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1180648" data-attributes="member: 14225">True, although at seventh level you could easily enough be a Barbarian/Fighter/Some PrC Goblin who specializes in the Heavy Lance and rides around on a trained worg indoors.Assuming a starting strength of 14, each raging ride-by-attack is going to be inflicting 3d8+24 points of damage before magical equipment. Since we've already noted that the Wizard could easily simply make all the weapons in the party +2 at this point (and that the goblin can pocket that +2 to-hit as Power Attack) - we may as well upgrade that damage to 3d8+36 per hit.Or roughly an increase in damage of about 49.5 per extra hit.So it's not terribly impractical that the character might be gaining about 50 points of damage per round from having cleave cast upon him at 7th level.Note also that 3.5 has made this sort of character even better by allowing them the reach and damage bonuses while still using a shield - and causing the power attack bonus to be 6 points of damage per to-hit penalty instead of &quot;only&quot; 3. But we are talking 3rd edition here.-Frank</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrankTrollman, post: 1180648, member: 14225"] True, although at seventh level you could easily enough be a Barbarian/Fighter/Some PrC Goblin who specializes in the Heavy Lance and rides around on a trained worg indoors. Assuming a starting strength of 14, each raging ride-by-attack is going to be inflicting 3d8+24 points of damage [i]before magical equipment[/i]. Since we've already noted that the Wizard could easily simply make all the weapons in the party +2 at this point (and that the goblin can pocket that +2 to-hit as Power Attack) - we may as well upgrade that damage to 3d8+36 per hit. Or roughly an increase in damage of about 49.5 per extra hit. So it's not terribly impractical that the character might be gaining about 50 points of damage [i]per round[/i] from having cleave cast upon him at 7th level. Note also that 3.5 has made this sort of character even better by allowing them the reach and damage bonuses while still using a shield - and causing the power attack bonus to be 6 points of damage per to-hit penalty instead of "only" 3. But we are talking 3rd edition here. -Frank [/QUOTE]

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