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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5723548" data-attributes="member: 4348">In the beginning before D&amp;D came about there was an avid group of people that played Wargames.&nbsp; From my point of view, it was from these Wargamers that D&amp;D was born.&nbsp; Many Wargamers did NOT like D&amp;D and thought it a convolution of gaming.To this day I won't admit to many that I wargame/boardgame with that I play RPGs, especially D&amp;D.&nbsp; It's for a different reason than many may hide that they play D&amp;D.&nbsp; It's not because they may see it as nerdy or geeky or anything to that effect, in many instances before D&amp;D..WARGAMERS were occasionally seen as the geeky ones.No, it's because D&amp;D had something that they thought was a threat to the wargaming community, or that's the best I could guess at.Some wargamers will qualify a wargame if it covers something that actually occurred in history.&nbsp; It attempts to recreate/simulate an ACTUAL battle or war.&nbsp; It utilizes the frame of reference of real world items.&nbsp; It utilizes movement, spaces, and measurements.For Wargamers from whom many of the original D&amp;D player were drawn from, these were obviously NOT occurances.&nbsp; D&amp;D was fantasy, not history.&nbsp; It had no actual battle from history, and used magic and other things not found in reality.&nbsp; Of course, these same arguments could be handled towards chainmail...and they were...but even chainmail seemed more palatable to some than D&amp;D.Why?&nbsp; I'm not certain.&nbsp; As I said, my best analysis was that some felt that D&amp;D was trying to encroach on their territory of gameplay by replacing it with something else.&nbsp; Eventually D&amp;D became larger then wargaming...but I'd say the original Broken Base dealing with D&amp;D was actually the Wargaming community.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 5723548, member: 4348"] In the beginning before D&D came about there was an avid group of people that played Wargames. From my point of view, it was from these Wargamers that D&D was born. Many Wargamers did NOT like D&D and thought it a convolution of gaming. To this day I won't admit to many that I wargame/boardgame with that I play RPGs, especially D&D. It's for a different reason than many may hide that they play D&D. It's not because they may see it as nerdy or geeky or anything to that effect, in many instances before D&D..WARGAMERS were occasionally seen as the geeky ones. No, it's because D&D had something that they thought was a threat to the wargaming community, or that's the best I could guess at. Some wargamers will qualify a wargame if it covers something that actually occurred in history. It attempts to recreate/simulate an ACTUAL battle or war. It utilizes the frame of reference of real world items. It utilizes movement, spaces, and measurements. For Wargamers from whom many of the original D&D player were drawn from, these were obviously NOT occurances. D&D was fantasy, not history. It had no actual battle from history, and used magic and other things not found in reality. Of course, these same arguments could be handled towards chainmail...and they were...but even chainmail seemed more palatable to some than D&D. Why? I'm not certain. As I said, my best analysis was that some felt that D&D was trying to encroach on their territory of gameplay by replacing it with something else. Eventually D&D became larger then wargaming...but I'd say the original Broken Base dealing with D&D was actually the Wargaming community. [/QUOTE]

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