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<blockquote data-quote="Xahn'Tyr" data-source="post: 41285" data-attributes="member: 1525">Isn't that just a hold-over concept form 2nd edition? The spell descript in 3rd Ed says:So a spark would clear out about 4 cubic inches of web (in orther words, none). If you used a torch, you could clear 5ft per round. It looks to me like the webs burn and shrivel away from an open flame, but there isn't any indication of a full-scale chain reaction that makes the whole thing go &quot;poof&quot; in an instant.As for Entangle, you can probably bring it back in line just by ruling that it animates nearby growth but does not enlarge it or strengthen it at all. So it really requires strong bushes or trees to be fully effective. Grass, even knee high, just isn't going to have the strength to immobilize someone - maybe slow them down, but not completely anchor them.&nbsp; If someone isn't standing next to a bush, or under the branches of a tree (or over the roots), then I would give them bonuses on their saving throw.If all of your fights are taking place in the deep woods, with all of the enemies attacking from one direction, and staring more than 20feet away, then yes, the druid will do well with entangle.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Xahn'Tyr, post: 41285, member: 1525"] Isn't that just a hold-over concept form 2nd edition? The spell descript in 3rd Ed says: So a spark would clear out about 4 cubic inches of web (in orther words, none). If you used a torch, you could clear 5ft per round. It looks to me like the webs burn and shrivel away from an open flame, but there isn't any indication of a full-scale chain reaction that makes the whole thing go "poof" in an instant. As for Entangle, you can probably bring it back in line just by ruling that it animates nearby growth but does not enlarge it or strengthen it at all. So it really requires strong bushes or trees to be fully effective. Grass, even knee high, just isn't going to have the strength to immobilize someone - maybe slow them down, but not completely anchor them. If someone isn't standing next to a bush, or under the branches of a tree (or over the roots), then I would give them bonuses on their saving throw. If all of your fights are taking place in the deep woods, with all of the enemies attacking from one direction, and staring more than 20feet away, then yes, the druid will do well with entangle. [/QUOTE]

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