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Broken Spells in SC and Broken Items in MIC?
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<blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 3931503" data-attributes="member: 51942"><p>:-D</p><p></p><p>For the record, I'm not impressed by the vest. I doubt many players will buy it. Most enemies don't use high level healing spells like heal at all. There's essentially no-one that <em>relies</em> on them - even those that can cast them, it's by nature a fall-back option. Given the limited range, and the fact that you need to need healing yourself, and the fact that it requires hefty investment in spellcraft, and uses a perfectly useful body-slot (otherwise occupied by the ever-useful vest of resistance)...</p><p></p><p>It's potentially useful for front-line spellcasters (that are likely to get damaged but have spellcraft anyhow) - and that basically only means druids and clerics, who are unlikely to need this item.</p><p></p><p>It's potentially useful for non-casters if there's a lot of low-level healing going on, and they're on the front line - this won't be an issue at high levels, as the body-slot and the immediate action and the daily limit make it very unattractive. It won't be a problem at low-level because of the cost.</p><p></p><p>So, does anyone know of a situation in which it'll be extremely powerful? In most campaigns it'll be useless, and in others, mediocre. If you're a polymorphing rakshasa with a high-spellcraft check with a lot of undead allies, whom you're saving from risking death by redirecting a heal spell, then it might really be pretty good. Maybe.</p><p></p><p>It's a good item since it's an interesting idea and sparks potentially creative uses without being overpowering. It's not great since it's usage is rather inflexible and situational, but it's not overpowered either.</p><p></p><p>Compare with the Ring of Spell-Battle (12k, MIC127). That's better. You might find the "fluff-bonus" of information about spellcasting overpowering on that ring. The hard bonus is also more powerful, allowing you to retarget a single spell per day. However, if you interpret that as only targetted spells (do others?) then even that doesn't seem too nasty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eamon, post: 3931503, member: 51942"] :-D For the record, I'm not impressed by the vest. I doubt many players will buy it. Most enemies don't use high level healing spells like heal at all. There's essentially no-one that [i]relies[/i] on them - even those that can cast them, it's by nature a fall-back option. Given the limited range, and the fact that you need to need healing yourself, and the fact that it requires hefty investment in spellcraft, and uses a perfectly useful body-slot (otherwise occupied by the ever-useful vest of resistance)... It's potentially useful for front-line spellcasters (that are likely to get damaged but have spellcraft anyhow) - and that basically only means druids and clerics, who are unlikely to need this item. It's potentially useful for non-casters if there's a lot of low-level healing going on, and they're on the front line - this won't be an issue at high levels, as the body-slot and the immediate action and the daily limit make it very unattractive. It won't be a problem at low-level because of the cost. So, does anyone know of a situation in which it'll be extremely powerful? In most campaigns it'll be useless, and in others, mediocre. If you're a polymorphing rakshasa with a high-spellcraft check with a lot of undead allies, whom you're saving from risking death by redirecting a heal spell, then it might really be pretty good. Maybe. It's a good item since it's an interesting idea and sparks potentially creative uses without being overpowering. It's not great since it's usage is rather inflexible and situational, but it's not overpowered either. Compare with the Ring of Spell-Battle (12k, MIC127). That's better. You might find the "fluff-bonus" of information about spellcasting overpowering on that ring. The hard bonus is also more powerful, allowing you to retarget a single spell per day. However, if you interpret that as only targetted spells (do others?) then even that doesn't seem too nasty. [/QUOTE]
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