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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 4762959" data-attributes="member: 78">That doesn't say anything about what kind of powers they are though.&nbsp; Sure, a wizard has Blood Mage powers on top of his class powers.&nbsp; But he also might have racial powers.&nbsp; Elven Accuracy is a racial power, not a wizard power, even if a wizard has it.&nbsp; Similarly, Bloodmage powers are not, in fact, wizard powers even if wizards have them.&nbsp; They say Bloodmage on them, not wizard.&nbsp; A character can have racial powers, class powers, paragon path powers, and a power from his epic destiny - but only the ones actually from the class are class powers even though the other powers are also in addition to class ones.And it does make a difference.&nbsp; Sleep can be even more brutal - but it will have a save unmodified by Orb of Imposition before it can be used lock someone into sleep.&nbsp; And other wizard powers that have Save Ends stun (29: Legion's Hold, and 25 Prismatic Spray.&nbsp; Plus anything in AP) aren't available until later.&nbsp; They also don't stun on a miss.Ruling that PP powers aren't class powers also means that the wizard can't recycle Destructive Salutation with Arcane Mastery every other encounter too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Victim, post: 4762959, member: 78"] That doesn't say anything about what kind of powers they are though. Sure, a wizard has Blood Mage powers on top of his class powers. But he also might have racial powers. Elven Accuracy is a racial power, not a wizard power, even if a wizard has it. Similarly, Bloodmage powers are not, in fact, wizard powers even if wizards have them. They say Bloodmage on them, not wizard. A character can have racial powers, class powers, paragon path powers, and a power from his epic destiny - but only the ones actually from the class are class powers even though the other powers are also in addition to class ones. And it does make a difference. Sleep can be even more brutal - but it will have a save unmodified by Orb of Imposition before it can be used lock someone into sleep. And other wizard powers that have Save Ends stun (29: Legion's Hold, and 25 Prismatic Spray. Plus anything in AP) aren't available until later. They also don't stun on a miss. Ruling that PP powers aren't class powers also means that the wizard can't recycle Destructive Salutation with Arcane Mastery every other encounter too. [/QUOTE]

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