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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 313516" data-attributes="member: 2011">That's debatable as well.Pro BoB:1) BoB has range built in allowing a caster to use it at range in round one. BSS does not and requires multiple spells and rounds to use at range. And, Spectral Hand can do damage to the caster and is often targeted, hence, typically short duration.If someone casts Spectral Hand in round one, a lot of other characters are either going to recognize it, or know it via Spellcraft and be expecting a ranged touch attack next. So, they might often target the Spectral Hand (potentially Readying until the caster starts casting his next spell so that they partially waste two spells, SH and the presumed touch spell that was supposed to be used with it).2) BoB will not go away if you cast another spell.3) Minor Globe and Globe of Invulnerability stop BSS.4) The save DC for BoB is two greater.Pro BSS:1) BSS has damage built in. BoB does not.2) BSS is touch AC, BoB is normal AC (I believe, I do not have the definition of BoB in front of me).3) BSS can be used multiple times per round based on BAB and Haste.BoB is a domain spell. Divine spells are typically supposed to be less effective combat spells than Arcane spells (although some Domain spells are from the Arcane lists and some identical Divine spells are lower level than Arcane spells such as Hold Person), hence, no arcane spell failure. Pros and Cons.BoB is also a domain spell typically for NPCs. Hence, it's utility to level ratio might be due to it being appropriate as opposed to optimized.All in all, the bottom line is that BSS is slower starting up (or has no range), is easy to avoid at range (by destroying the Spectral Hand), goes away if the caster casts another spell, and requires other spells to assist it for it to truly be effective.But it does damage, can potentially attack multiple times per round, and at lower levels, may be easier to hit against the types of targets it is best suited for.And finally, we are comparing an arcane spell versus a divine one which implies that the arcane should, in general, be slightly more powerful.They appear more appropriate as to where they are level wise than implied considering more factors than just damage and dazing though.</blockquote>

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