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<blockquote data-quote="Hammerhead" data-source="post: 313560" data-attributes="member: 73">Or BoB could just suck.&nbsp; There are always a few of those spells around.&nbsp; Most of the Creation type spells are junk, and how about Drawji's Instant Summons.&nbsp; There a enough crappy spells that you need to look at more than one to get a good base for comparision.&nbsp; Should Fireball only do 3d6 because Icestorm does 5?BSS is doing less than normal damage - even at higher levels when it isn't capped - has a nifty daze effect, and is efficient since it can be used over multiple rounds.&nbsp; It's a strong 3rd level spell, make no mistake, but it's not exactly the ultimate weapon.&nbsp; And, based on damage and effect, I'd say that it clearly doesn't belong at 4th level, at least by the guidelines in the DMG.&nbsp; It's better than Icestorm, but, in IMHO, magic missile is better than ice storm.I've found another dazing spell.&nbsp; Dark Bolt, from FCRS, is a level 5 Darkness domain spell.&nbsp; It shoots a number of rays equal to level/2 (max 7) out to medium range.&nbsp; The people it hits take 2d8 and must save or be dazed for 1 round.&nbsp; I think that the ability to hit 7 people at once is a huge advantage, despite the lack of damage dealing power.&nbsp; Add in the fact that arcane spells should have advantages offensively, and I think BSS is okay.EDIT= spelling error</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hammerhead, post: 313560, member: 73"] Or BoB could just suck. There are always a few of those spells around. Most of the Creation type spells are junk, and how about Drawji's Instant Summons. There a enough crappy spells that you need to look at more than one to get a good base for comparision. Should Fireball only do 3d6 because Icestorm does 5? BSS is doing less than normal damage - even at higher levels when it isn't capped - has a nifty daze effect, and is efficient since it can be used over multiple rounds. It's a strong 3rd level spell, make no mistake, but it's not exactly the ultimate weapon. And, based on damage and effect, I'd say that it clearly doesn't belong at 4th level, at least by the guidelines in the DMG. It's better than Icestorm, but, in IMHO, magic missile is better than ice storm. I've found another dazing spell. Dark Bolt, from FCRS, is a level 5 Darkness domain spell. It shoots a number of rays equal to level/2 (max 7) out to medium range. The people it hits take 2d8 and must save or be dazed for 1 round. I think that the ability to hit 7 people at once is a huge advantage, despite the lack of damage dealing power. Add in the fact that arcane spells should have advantages offensively, and I think BSS is okay. EDIT= spelling error [/QUOTE]

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