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<blockquote data-quote="Shallown" data-source="post: 1246749" data-attributes="member: 1368"><p>Some confusion arose this weekend over this spell.</p><p></p><p>It says it creates a Large hand. Capital L I assume that is a 10 X 10 hand and therefore takes up a 10 X 10 space. I was wondering how to treat this Hand since it only really affects 1 subject/target. </p><p></p><p>Questions like Does it suffer the double move penalty and to hit Ac penalties in a 5 X 5 space. I know it has no movement itself but while doing its bullrush in a confined space does it only bullrush at 1/2 its normal amount.</p><p></p><p>Does it provide cover as a Large creature or is the cover bonus only for the caster which is what the Spell technically reads.</p><p></p><p>And I know what the Word pursues means but how exacting is this. Does it mean that the hand will knock aside allies to hunt down the target. It doesn't teleport or anything that I can tell since its movementis unlimited in doeing its job. </p><p></p><p>Also since it is large and assumed atthis point to be 10 feet across what if two creatures are standing side by side in front of it. Does it only bullrush one and take the limited movement penalties etc for squeezing into one space if t succeeds. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Here is the Text of the SRD.</p><p></p><p>Forceful Hand</p><p>Evocation [Force]</p><p>Level: Sor/Wiz 6</p><p>Components: V, S, F</p><p>This spell functions like interposing hand, except that the forceful hand pursues and pushes away the opponent that you designate. Treat this attack as a bull rush with a +14 bonus on the Strength check (+8 for Strength 27, +4 for being Large, and a +2 bonus for charging, which it always gets). The hand always moves with the opponent to push that target back the full distance allowed, and it has no speed limit. Directing the spell to a new target is a move action.</p><p>A very strong creature could not push the hand out of its way because the latter would instantly reposition itself between the creature and you, but an opponent could push the hand up against you by successfully bull rushing it.</p><p>Focus: A sturdy glove made of leather or heavy cloth.</p><p></p><p>And here is Interposing hand if it helps.</p><p>Interposing Hand</p><p>Evocation [Force]</p><p>Level: Sor/Wiz 5</p><p>Components: V, S, F</p><p>Casting Time: 1 standard action</p><p>Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)</p><p>Effect: 10-ft. hand</p><p>Duration: 1 round/level (D)</p><p>Saving Throw: None</p><p>Spell Resistance: Yes</p><p>Interposing hand creates a Large magic hand that appears between you and one opponent. This floating, disembodied hand then moves to remain between the two of you, regardless of where you move or how the opponent tries to get around it, providing cover (+4 AC) for you against that opponent. Nothing can fool the hand—it sticks with the selected opponent in spite of darkness, invisibility, polymorphing, or any other attempt at hiding or disguise. The hand does not pursue an opponent, however.</p><p>An interposing hand is 10 feet long and about that wide with its fingers outstretched. It has as many hit points as you do when you’re undamaged, and its AC is 20 (–1 size, +11 natural). It takes damage as a normal creature, but most magical effects that don’t cause damage do not affect it.</p><p>The hand never provokes attacks of opportunity from opponents. It cannot push through a wall of force or enter an antimagic field, but it suffers the full effect of a prismatic wall or prismatic sphere. The hand makes saving throws as its caster.</p><p>Disintegrate or a successful dispel magic destroys it.</p><p>Any creature weighing 2,000 pounds or less that tries to push past the hand is slowed to half its normal speed. The hand cannot reduce the speed of a creature weighing more than 2,000 pounds, but it still affects the creature’s attacks.</p><p>Directing the spell to a new target is a move action.</p><p>Focus: A soft glove.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Lots of questions that I adjudicated last night but I wanted everyone elses opinion on it so if some different arguements/interpretations existed I could go back and adjust the Rulings.</p><p></p><p>Later and thanks</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shallown, post: 1246749, member: 1368"] Some confusion arose this weekend over this spell. It says it creates a Large hand. Capital L I assume that is a 10 X 10 hand and therefore takes up a 10 X 10 space. I was wondering how to treat this Hand since it only really affects 1 subject/target. Questions like Does it suffer the double move penalty and to hit Ac penalties in a 5 X 5 space. I know it has no movement itself but while doing its bullrush in a confined space does it only bullrush at 1/2 its normal amount. Does it provide cover as a Large creature or is the cover bonus only for the caster which is what the Spell technically reads. And I know what the Word pursues means but how exacting is this. Does it mean that the hand will knock aside allies to hunt down the target. It doesn't teleport or anything that I can tell since its movementis unlimited in doeing its job. Also since it is large and assumed atthis point to be 10 feet across what if two creatures are standing side by side in front of it. Does it only bullrush one and take the limited movement penalties etc for squeezing into one space if t succeeds. Here is the Text of the SRD. Forceful Hand Evocation [Force] Level: Sor/Wiz 6 Components: V, S, F This spell functions like interposing hand, except that the forceful hand pursues and pushes away the opponent that you designate. Treat this attack as a bull rush with a +14 bonus on the Strength check (+8 for Strength 27, +4 for being Large, and a +2 bonus for charging, which it always gets). The hand always moves with the opponent to push that target back the full distance allowed, and it has no speed limit. Directing the spell to a new target is a move action. A very strong creature could not push the hand out of its way because the latter would instantly reposition itself between the creature and you, but an opponent could push the hand up against you by successfully bull rushing it. Focus: A sturdy glove made of leather or heavy cloth. And here is Interposing hand if it helps. Interposing Hand Evocation [Force] Level: Sor/Wiz 5 Components: V, S, F Casting Time: 1 standard action Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) Effect: 10-ft. hand Duration: 1 round/level (D) Saving Throw: None Spell Resistance: Yes Interposing hand creates a Large magic hand that appears between you and one opponent. This floating, disembodied hand then moves to remain between the two of you, regardless of where you move or how the opponent tries to get around it, providing cover (+4 AC) for you against that opponent. Nothing can fool the hand—it sticks with the selected opponent in spite of darkness, invisibility, polymorphing, or any other attempt at hiding or disguise. The hand does not pursue an opponent, however. An interposing hand is 10 feet long and about that wide with its fingers outstretched. It has as many hit points as you do when you’re undamaged, and its AC is 20 (–1 size, +11 natural). It takes damage as a normal creature, but most magical effects that don’t cause damage do not affect it. The hand never provokes attacks of opportunity from opponents. It cannot push through a wall of force or enter an antimagic field, but it suffers the full effect of a prismatic wall or prismatic sphere. The hand makes saving throws as its caster. Disintegrate or a successful dispel magic destroys it. Any creature weighing 2,000 pounds or less that tries to push past the hand is slowed to half its normal speed. The hand cannot reduce the speed of a creature weighing more than 2,000 pounds, but it still affects the creature’s attacks. Directing the spell to a new target is a move action. Focus: A soft glove. Lots of questions that I adjudicated last night but I wanted everyone elses opinion on it so if some different arguements/interpretations existed I could go back and adjust the Rulings. Later and thanks [/QUOTE]
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