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<blockquote data-quote="Kid Charlemagne" data-source="post: 435470" data-attributes="member: 93">In my experience, most of the issues involving scry/teleport are based around a less than rigorous application of the spell's parameters.&nbsp; Not being precise about how much weight can be carried, allowing people to hop out of a portable hole in one round, allowing people to call a few minutes of watching an area to be considered &quot;studying&quot; the area, allowing the druid to cast the scry and the mage to cast the teleport as if both had seen the area, etc.Scrying is cast upon a person, not an area.&nbsp; Concentration must be maintained on the person, IMO.&nbsp; This precludes good studying of the area.&nbsp; I'd allow &quot;viewed once&quot; but no better.As for the portable hole trick (which IIRC is the tactic used in Wulf's SH), I'd rule that the portable hole is similar to a large sheet of silk, and must be laid out totally smooth to open into the extradimensional space.&nbsp; This should take several rounds, and multiple people.&nbsp; Ever try to totally straighten out a ten foot circular cloth?&nbsp; It's practically impossible by yourself.Remember that Scry takes an hour to cast.&nbsp; PC's don't have an exact measure of time available to them most of the time, so I would make them wait on casting any real short term spells until after the scry is totally cast.&nbsp; That gives the Scry Detector several rounds to prep.&nbsp; Maybe even just teleport away.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kid Charlemagne, post: 435470, member: 93"] In my experience, most of the issues involving scry/teleport are based around a less than rigorous application of the spell's parameters. Not being precise about how much weight can be carried, allowing people to hop out of a portable hole in one round, allowing people to call a few minutes of watching an area to be considered "studying" the area, allowing the druid to cast the scry and the mage to cast the teleport as if both had seen the area, etc. Scrying is cast upon a person, not an area. Concentration must be maintained on the person, IMO. This precludes good studying of the area. I'd allow "viewed once" but no better. As for the portable hole trick (which IIRC is the tactic used in Wulf's SH), I'd rule that the portable hole is similar to a large sheet of silk, and must be laid out totally smooth to open into the extradimensional space. This should take several rounds, and multiple people. Ever try to totally straighten out a ten foot circular cloth? It's practically impossible by yourself. Remember that Scry takes an hour to cast. PC's don't have an exact measure of time available to them most of the time, so I would make them wait on casting any real short term spells until after the scry is totally cast. That gives the Scry Detector several rounds to prep. Maybe even just teleport away. [/QUOTE]

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