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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 438486" data-attributes="member: 224">So, the current list of Buff-Scry-Teleport solutions are:#1) Make sure all of the rules for teleport and scry are closely followed and "enforced".<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">teleport weight limit</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Scry casting time of one hour</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Scryied person has a non-negligable chance of noticing the sensor, even without magical help.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A quick scry-teleport probably lands you in the "viewed once" catagory of teleport miss chances.</li> </ul>#2) All powerful people should have scry/teleport detections and defences -- it's just part of being high level in a magic-using world.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Detect Scrying spell or magic items.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Have anything from Nondetection (whimpy, easily countered) to Mindblank (uber-spell, probably over-kill) as a continous (or Persistant) spell or magic item.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Create (or adopt from splat-books) new spells and magic items that specifically counter either the scry, or the teleport, or both.  Mordenkainen's Sanctum was suggested as one.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Beef up your home base(s) with spells like Forbiddance or (Un)Hallow w/ Dimensional Anchor.  (Boy, do arcane spell casters need some help here, or what?)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Have a Greater Dispel Magic (or the like) ready for just such an unexpected visit.</li> </ul>#3) Rule Zero th' whole mess in some way, if you think the above solutions can't handle it.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Change teleport: insert a "round-after" of nausea or stunning.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Pretend that the "timeless" aspect of the Astral Plane really means that buff spells expire during teleport.  ...Rather than interpreting "timeless" to mean the passage of time stops during transport.  <pokes at Plane <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />  ></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Have teleport take one or more rounds, during which time either a) those at the destination can sense the in-coming teleport, or b) those pesky buff spells expire.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Nerf scry so that half the casting time happens after the scry is complete.  (Huh? <shrugs> )</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Interpret scry description to mean that you only see the person, not his surroundings...therefore you can't teleport to him.</li> </ul>#4) Make no changes or adjustments at all.  Have the enemies use this trick first, and jus' kill off th' PCs in their sleep before they get that powerful.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Hey, what's good fer th' goose is good fer the gander......</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Why should the NPCs be idiots?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> ....IOW, plot out the affects of the availability of this trick on your campaign......</li> </ul><EDIT:Computer crashed during send.></blockquote>

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