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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy" data-source="post: 442607" data-attributes="member: 4036">[vent/side track]Yeah.&nbsp; My players must hate me though.&nbsp; When something like that happens they act like I'm deliberately out to get them.Just yesterday they encountered a shapeshifter who was impersonating a long lost friend of theirs.&nbsp; Unfortunately, they knew the current state of said friend and thus didn't believe he was who he claimed to be.&nbsp; He beat feet when they drew steel, made it around a corner and changed form to exit stage left.&nbsp; But one of the party was airborn and saw his little stunt, pursued him, then proceed to smack him for 1/4 of his hit points.Delaying tactics ensued but after another hit, he could tell he was going to die.&nbsp; Being undead, he didn't particularly like the thought of losing his eternal lifespan, so he played possum.&nbsp; Another tremendous blow rocked him and he rolled with it and hit the ground.&nbsp; I had him assume the form of a human they were suspicious of as he hit the ground.They poked and prodded his undead body, noted he wasn't breathing, and tried to decide what to do with him.&nbsp; One of them even mentioned that shape changers normally assume their natural forms and another player knew what their natural form was, but the party eventually just glossed over it and tossed the body into a portable hole to torch latter.The shapechanger made a cut in the hole and was lost forever but remained alive.Afterwards one player took it in stride and RP'd his characters reaction while three others jumped out of character and raged at me with all sorts or reinterpretations of things they meant to say or meant to do.&nbsp; Dirty looks ensued and feeling guilty already about the way things were I was about an inch away from throwing consequences out the door and rolling back the clock for them.But what fun is a world without consequences?&nbsp; Where the world can't affect the pc's and the pc's can't effect them?&nbsp; So once again I'm a despised DM.&nbsp; I need to figure out PC's and DDog's trick wherein something bad will happen and a fondly uttered &quot;Ratbastard DM&quot; phrase will be uttered instead of a string of profanities.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />[/end vent/side track]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jeremy, post: 442607, member: 4036"] [vent/side track]Yeah. My players must hate me though. When something like that happens they act like I'm deliberately out to get them. Just yesterday they encountered a shapeshifter who was impersonating a long lost friend of theirs. Unfortunately, they knew the current state of said friend and thus didn't believe he was who he claimed to be. He beat feet when they drew steel, made it around a corner and changed form to exit stage left. But one of the party was airborn and saw his little stunt, pursued him, then proceed to smack him for 1/4 of his hit points. Delaying tactics ensued but after another hit, he could tell he was going to die. Being undead, he didn't particularly like the thought of losing his eternal lifespan, so he played possum. Another tremendous blow rocked him and he rolled with it and hit the ground. I had him assume the form of a human they were suspicious of as he hit the ground. They poked and prodded his undead body, noted he wasn't breathing, and tried to decide what to do with him. One of them even mentioned that shape changers normally assume their natural forms and another player knew what their natural form was, but the party eventually just glossed over it and tossed the body into a portable hole to torch latter. The shapechanger made a cut in the hole and was lost forever but remained alive. Afterwards one player took it in stride and RP'd his characters reaction while three others jumped out of character and raged at me with all sorts or reinterpretations of things they meant to say or meant to do. Dirty looks ensued and feeling guilty already about the way things were I was about an inch away from throwing consequences out the door and rolling back the clock for them. But what fun is a world without consequences? Where the world can't affect the pc's and the pc's can't effect them? So once again I'm a despised DM. I need to figure out PC's and DDog's trick wherein something bad will happen and a fondly uttered "Ratbastard DM" phrase will be uttered instead of a string of profanities. :)[/end vent/side track] [/QUOTE]

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