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<blockquote data-quote="Galfridus" data-source="post: 443857" data-attributes="member: 119">My campaign is just hitting 9th/10th level and doesn't have any pure wizards, so I've seen the Scry side but not the Teleport side. I created a house rule for Scry which also (hopefully) addresses the Teleport issue:Make DC exactly: See and hear target only (no surroundings). Not enough info for teleportation.Beat by 10+: Vague, limited view of background (objects only, no people).&nbsp; Must study for 10 minutes to Teleport; counts as &quot;Description&quot; (longer or repeated viewings do not improve this).Beat by 20+: Detailed view of background and people. Must study for 10 minutes to Teleport; counts as &quot;viewed once&quot; (can improve to &quot;seen casually&quot; with longer or repeated viewings).Beat by 30+: Detailed view, can move sensor (once per minute) with another roll at +30 DC. Teleport as above, but can be improved to &quot;studied carefully&quot; with longer or repeated viewings.Hopefully, this discourages casual use of BST: someone who spots a scry sensor has 10 minutes to dispel it, prepare, flee, etc. It does not address the issue of BST against strongholds; I'll probably use the Mordenkainen spell or something similar as a standard defense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Galfridus, post: 443857, member: 119"] My campaign is just hitting 9th/10th level and doesn't have any pure wizards, so I've seen the Scry side but not the Teleport side. I created a house rule for Scry which also (hopefully) addresses the Teleport issue: Make DC exactly: See and hear target only (no surroundings). Not enough info for teleportation. Beat by 10+: Vague, limited view of background (objects only, no people). Must study for 10 minutes to Teleport; counts as "Description" (longer or repeated viewings do not improve this). Beat by 20+: Detailed view of background and people. Must study for 10 minutes to Teleport; counts as "viewed once" (can improve to "seen casually" with longer or repeated viewings). Beat by 30+: Detailed view, can move sensor (once per minute) with another roll at +30 DC. Teleport as above, but can be improved to "studied carefully" with longer or repeated viewings. Hopefully, this discourages casual use of BST: someone who spots a scry sensor has 10 minutes to dispel it, prepare, flee, etc. It does not address the issue of BST against strongholds; I'll probably use the Mordenkainen spell or something similar as a standard defense. [/QUOTE]

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