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<blockquote data-quote="auburn2" data-source="post: 8229047" data-attributes="member: 6855259">I disagree with the premise that Monk's get weak.&nbsp; While some of the 11th-level features seem undepowered, the 13th and 14th level Monk abilities are among the best high-level abilities in the game.&nbsp; Diamond soul is the equivalent of three feats in one ability.&nbsp; Most of the 17th-level features are really good too.&nbsp; IMO you are going to have to replace or nerf those to give monks better abilities and maintain balance with other classes.I will also point out that you are using tranquility incorrectly.&nbsp; The idea behind tranquility is that you avoid combat completely.&nbsp; You are right it only lasts until you attack, but normally you won't be attacking if you are using it, you walk right into the cave, right past the 50 guards, search for and find the secret passage while the helpless guards are watching you.&nbsp; Walk right up to the dragon's horde, take whatever you need to take from his horde while he is watching you and leave with it.&nbsp; He probably breathes on you once, which you probably save against for no damage ..... maybe a few of the guards actually make their save and get to attack you but they probably miss since you are taking the dodge action as you walk by them anyway.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="auburn2, post: 8229047, member: 6855259"] I disagree with the premise that Monk's get weak. While some of the 11th-level features seem undepowered, the 13th and 14th level Monk abilities are among the best high-level abilities in the game. Diamond soul is the equivalent of three feats in one ability. Most of the 17th-level features are really good too. IMO you are going to have to replace or nerf those to give monks better abilities and maintain balance with other classes. I will also point out that you are using tranquility incorrectly. The idea behind tranquility is that you avoid combat completely. You are right it only lasts until you attack, but normally you won't be attacking if you are using it, you walk right into the cave, right past the 50 guards, search for and find the secret passage while the helpless guards are watching you. Walk right up to the dragon's horde, take whatever you need to take from his horde while he is watching you and leave with it. He probably breathes on you once, which you probably save against for no damage ..... maybe a few of the guards actually make their save and get to attack you but they probably miss since you are taking the dodge action as you walk by them anyway. [/QUOTE]

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