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<blockquote data-quote="Sirius_Black" data-source="post: 892728" data-attributes="member: 4142"><p>Spoilers may be ahead</p><p></p><p></p><p>Myrdden revealed:</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Dead on analysis. The show seems to be going out with a whimper, not a bang.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>There were, as usual, good moments, to a very average at best episode. However, the writing, this episode, and the season itself, seems really uneven. At times I feel as if I'm watching scenes connected together rather than an actual story that should be flowing. Take the Faith scene, they have a somewhat good dialogue together about being a slayer, being a leader, being alone. I really wished they had made a reference to Kendra and Buffy chatting back in Season 2 about being freaks. However, less than five minutes later you get Buffy telling Spike that if she wants mixed signals she has Faith for that. WTF???!!! Did I miss something in the last scene? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>An anti-climatic ending to a very anti-climatic character. Buffy has never had a good enemy since the Mayor in Season 3. Maggie Walsh had the most potential. Yet, the First, beautiful idea, bad follow up, has been nothing but very boring. Caleb? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>As for the Angel appearance, did he not seem to have some of the worst dialogue ever written for that character? I read somewhere else that people thought it was Angelus at first the way he was talking and acting or John Wayne. "You are so gonna lose partner. I tell you the little lady with the scythe there is gonna open up a can of whoop ass." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> It's as if the writers of Buffy for this episode, forgot how to write the character of Angel. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Okay, raise your hands if you actually thought that Dawn was not going to end up back in Sunnydale for the final battle. So basically the scenes with her and Xander are nothing but filler space although it's nice to hear what apparently happened to Ms. Kitty Fantastico is that she too decided death would be better than dealing with Dawn on a daily basis. I can forgive the suspension of disbelief for the car not going off the road. It is a tv show. I cannot forgive a lazy plot device by writers that can do better.</p><p></p><p>Is Dawn stunning Xander in character? Let's see, it was dangerous, stupid, childish, and unfeeling towards probably the person that has been the most supportive of you outside of your family. Yep, it was in character for Dawn. God, think of all the whining that could have been averted if at the end of Season 5, Buffy had pitched the girl off the tower with a cry of "Welcome to the party pal."</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Sorry, that excuse will not work. The story had two writers. Doug Petrie (writer-director of “Get It Done” and the hugely underrated “As You Were”) and Jane Espenson (“Same Time, Same Place,” “Conversations With Dead People,” “Sleeper,” “First Date,” “Storyteller”). Ms. Espenson wrote Earshot and Band Candy, two wonderful eps from Season 3. Mr. Petrie wrote Bad Girls and Enemies among other episodes. Thus, both have done much better before.</p><p></p><p>uv23 said:</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Technically, we never saw the last time they were together between the F you moment that I believe you are mentioning in Season 4 in Buffy and Angel, Season 1. The two reunited after Buffy came back from the dead in Season 6. However, since that was off camera, we never heard what took place except Buffy saying I believe it was intense.</p><p></p><p>Intensity. How I miss it from Buffy these days.</p><p></p><p>On a final note. Why the hell did they bring Eliza Dushku on the show for five episodes? Besides for the ratings increase for the Faith lovers out there. What has Faith done for most of the time save for taking charge briefly? Granted, the show is crowded these days without even taking into account the potentials that a Principal can go missing and not even be vaguely mentioned. However, it seems such a waste of a good character what they've done with Faith. No wonder this girl went with an as of yet unpicked up Fox pilot instead of a Faith spinoff. Eliza took one look at the writing and thought, "Hmm, even Fox must be better than this." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sirius_Black, post: 892728, member: 4142"] Spoilers may be ahead Myrdden revealed: Dead on analysis. The show seems to be going out with a whimper, not a bang. There were, as usual, good moments, to a very average at best episode. However, the writing, this episode, and the season itself, seems really uneven. At times I feel as if I'm watching scenes connected together rather than an actual story that should be flowing. Take the Faith scene, they have a somewhat good dialogue together about being a slayer, being a leader, being alone. I really wished they had made a reference to Kendra and Buffy chatting back in Season 2 about being freaks. However, less than five minutes later you get Buffy telling Spike that if she wants mixed signals she has Faith for that. WTF???!!! Did I miss something in the last scene? :confused: An anti-climatic ending to a very anti-climatic character. Buffy has never had a good enemy since the Mayor in Season 3. Maggie Walsh had the most potential. Yet, the First, beautiful idea, bad follow up, has been nothing but very boring. Caleb? :rolleyes: As for the Angel appearance, did he not seem to have some of the worst dialogue ever written for that character? I read somewhere else that people thought it was Angelus at first the way he was talking and acting or John Wayne. "You are so gonna lose partner. I tell you the little lady with the scythe there is gonna open up a can of whoop ass." :rolleyes: It's as if the writers of Buffy for this episode, forgot how to write the character of Angel. Okay, raise your hands if you actually thought that Dawn was not going to end up back in Sunnydale for the final battle. So basically the scenes with her and Xander are nothing but filler space although it's nice to hear what apparently happened to Ms. Kitty Fantastico is that she too decided death would be better than dealing with Dawn on a daily basis. I can forgive the suspension of disbelief for the car not going off the road. It is a tv show. I cannot forgive a lazy plot device by writers that can do better. Is Dawn stunning Xander in character? Let's see, it was dangerous, stupid, childish, and unfeeling towards probably the person that has been the most supportive of you outside of your family. Yep, it was in character for Dawn. God, think of all the whining that could have been averted if at the end of Season 5, Buffy had pitched the girl off the tower with a cry of "Welcome to the party pal." Sorry, that excuse will not work. The story had two writers. Doug Petrie (writer-director of “Get It Done” and the hugely underrated “As You Were”) and Jane Espenson (“Same Time, Same Place,” “Conversations With Dead People,” “Sleeper,” “First Date,” “Storyteller”). Ms. Espenson wrote Earshot and Band Candy, two wonderful eps from Season 3. Mr. Petrie wrote Bad Girls and Enemies among other episodes. Thus, both have done much better before. uv23 said: Technically, we never saw the last time they were together between the F you moment that I believe you are mentioning in Season 4 in Buffy and Angel, Season 1. The two reunited after Buffy came back from the dead in Season 6. However, since that was off camera, we never heard what took place except Buffy saying I believe it was intense. Intensity. How I miss it from Buffy these days. On a final note. Why the hell did they bring Eliza Dushku on the show for five episodes? Besides for the ratings increase for the Faith lovers out there. What has Faith done for most of the time save for taking charge briefly? Granted, the show is crowded these days without even taking into account the potentials that a Principal can go missing and not even be vaguely mentioned. However, it seems such a waste of a good character what they've done with Faith. No wonder this girl went with an as of yet unpicked up Fox pilot instead of a Faith spinoff. Eliza took one look at the writing and thought, "Hmm, even Fox must be better than this." :p [/QUOTE]
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