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Message: <blockquote data-quote="John Crichton" data-source="post: 634307" data-attributes="member: 4779">I have to dissagree.  The whole Scooby gang tried to help Faith.  I felt that Angel was actually getting somewhere with her.  Then Wes and the counsel got involved.  That's what finally did it, IMO.Faith never went completely evil for no reason.  She was looking for acceptance.  She never felt she had it with Buffy and crew, plus she is a rebel anyway.  Giles couldn't be a father figure to her because that's what he is to Buffy.  And the only other person she could relate to was Buffy.  Their relationship was like estranged sisters, to me.  They were so much alike, yet fundamentally different.  The Mayor because a father to her and that's what kept her doing all the killing, to win his approval.  It's not an excuse, but it's what made her happy at the time.  Which is what makes it so saucy and evil.There was motive and reason.  Plus, we knew enough background about Faith to see that she had a very dark side to her that if pushed to far, would collapse.  Plus, she's not as mentally tough as Buffy.  Buffy had friends and family.  Faith was an outsider with alot of pain and low on trust.</blockquote>