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<blockquote data-quote="clark411" data-source="post: 1080022" data-attributes="member: 4768">ECL = Level Adjustment + Racial HD.So a Bugbear is an ECL +4 (3 from its HD, one from LA)If your character is going to be ECL 5, he'll only have one class level.If you're going by Savage Species rules, then the only way an monstrous class can advance into classes is by completing its racial levels and earning its HD, racial abilities, and feats.&nbsp; Just keep in mind that a Bugbear in the MM is a Warrior 1, so has its first class level feat picked out.Taking no Bugbear HD is, at best, a rather large stretch out of the rules put down by SS, as it sets the idea that at least some of the stat boosts you're aiming to get (given what you've thought of removing in exchange for not counting HD) are usually tied to Bugbear Racial Levels.&nbsp; A 1 HD Bugbear may start out with only +2 Str and -2 Cha... and get the additional +2 Str along with +2 Con in it's 3rd HD for example.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clark411, post: 1080022, member: 4768"] ECL = Level Adjustment + Racial HD. So a Bugbear is an ECL +4 (3 from its HD, one from LA) If your character is going to be ECL 5, he'll only have one class level. If you're going by Savage Species rules, then the only way an monstrous class can advance into classes is by completing its racial levels and earning its HD, racial abilities, and feats. Just keep in mind that a Bugbear in the MM is a Warrior 1, so has its first class level feat picked out. Taking no Bugbear HD is, at best, a rather large stretch out of the rules put down by SS, as it sets the idea that at least some of the stat boosts you're aiming to get (given what you've thought of removing in exchange for not counting HD) are usually tied to Bugbear Racial Levels. A 1 HD Bugbear may start out with only +2 Str and -2 Cha... and get the additional +2 Str along with +2 Con in it's 3rd HD for example. [/QUOTE]

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