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Bugbears as PCs balanced??
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<blockquote data-quote="Engilbrand" data-source="post: 4445067" data-attributes="member: 44184"><p>I disagree. Bugbears are noble warriors who are known for their ability to whittle. Gnomes, on the other hand...</p><p>See what I did there? I changed the flavor for my game. Are Bugbears in the back of the MM? Yes. So are Warforged, Gnomes, and Shifters. Are those automatically evil? What about in Eberron? Bugbears make sense as a PC race in Eberron. In some areas, they might be looked down upon, but they aren't kill on sight.</p><p>In the game that I'm running, I let the players know that the PHB races were OK, told them that their area is very racially tolerant, and Orcs, Goblins and Kobolds were kill on sight. Bugbears are a form of Goblin, so they're still KOS. The other MM races? When someone asked for Minotaur, I found a spot for them. Why are the Orcs, Goblins and Kobolds KOS? Because that's what I decided for my game. It's a simple default.</p><p>If a player is asking if it's possible to play a Bugbear, though, they're also asking what the default assumption is for the world. The conversation should go like this:</p><p></p><p>Player: Can I play a Bugbear?</p><p>DM: They're seen as monsters and most of the civilized world will kill them when they see them.</p><p>Player: So, is that a yes?</p><p>DM: Shut up. Stupid question.</p><p></p><p>OR:</p><p></p><p>Player: Can I play a Bugbear?</p><p>DM: I hadn't planned on it, but I'm willing to sit down with you and come up with their place in the world. We can figure out some campaign-specific history and how people see them.</p><p>Player: Sounds good.</p><p></p><p>But, it shouldn't go:</p><p></p><p>Player: Can I play a Bugbear?</p><p>DM: Sure.</p><p>DM a little later to the other players: Your town was just attacked by Bugbears. You see one to the East that is dressed like- (What do you look like?</p><p>Other players: We attack it.</p><p></p><p>Numbers 1 and 2 are acceptable. Number 3 is the sign of a douchebag.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Engilbrand, post: 4445067, member: 44184"] I disagree. Bugbears are noble warriors who are known for their ability to whittle. Gnomes, on the other hand... See what I did there? I changed the flavor for my game. Are Bugbears in the back of the MM? Yes. So are Warforged, Gnomes, and Shifters. Are those automatically evil? What about in Eberron? Bugbears make sense as a PC race in Eberron. In some areas, they might be looked down upon, but they aren't kill on sight. In the game that I'm running, I let the players know that the PHB races were OK, told them that their area is very racially tolerant, and Orcs, Goblins and Kobolds were kill on sight. Bugbears are a form of Goblin, so they're still KOS. The other MM races? When someone asked for Minotaur, I found a spot for them. Why are the Orcs, Goblins and Kobolds KOS? Because that's what I decided for my game. It's a simple default. If a player is asking if it's possible to play a Bugbear, though, they're also asking what the default assumption is for the world. The conversation should go like this: Player: Can I play a Bugbear? DM: They're seen as monsters and most of the civilized world will kill them when they see them. Player: So, is that a yes? DM: Shut up. Stupid question. OR: Player: Can I play a Bugbear? DM: I hadn't planned on it, but I'm willing to sit down with you and come up with their place in the world. We can figure out some campaign-specific history and how people see them. Player: Sounds good. But, it shouldn't go: Player: Can I play a Bugbear? DM: Sure. DM a little later to the other players: Your town was just attacked by Bugbears. You see one to the East that is dressed like- (What do you look like? Other players: We attack it. Numbers 1 and 2 are acceptable. Number 3 is the sign of a douchebag. [/QUOTE]
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